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I'm going to talk today about saving more,
我今天想聊聊存錢
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but not today, tomorrow.
但不是今天,是明天
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I'm going to talk about Save More Tomorrow.
我將要聊聊為明天儲存更多錢
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It's a program that Richard Thaler
有一個計劃
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from the University of Chicago and I
是來自芝加哥大學理查德泰勒和我一起
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devised maybe 15 years ago.
大概15年前設計的
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The program, in a sense,
這個計劃,從某種程度來說,
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is an example of behavioral finance
是行為經濟學的一個例子
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on steroids --
也就是-
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how we could really use behavioral finance.
我們如何真正利用行為經濟學
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Now you might ask, what is behavioral finance?
於是你會問,甚麼是行為經濟學?
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So let's think about how we manage our money.
讓我們來思考我們平時是怎樣理財的
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Let's start with mortgages.
我們從房貸說起
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It's kind of a recent topic,
最近我們常看到這個話題
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at least in the U.S.
至少在美國是如此
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A lot of people buy
很多人買
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the biggest house they can afford,
在他們支付能力範圍之內最大的房子
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and actually slightly bigger than that.
事實上比可支付範圍還要稍大一些
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And then they foreclose.
最後他們付不起房貸
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And then they blame the banks
於是他們開始埋怨銀行
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for being the bad guys who gave them the mortgages.
說銀行是貸款給他們的壞人
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Let's also think about
我們再想想
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how we manage risks --
我們怎樣管理風險-
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for example, investing in the stock market.
舉個例子,投資股票市場
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Two years ago, three years ago, about four years ago,
兩年前,三年前,大約四年前
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markets did well.
市場運行得很好
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We were risk takers, of course.
當然那時候我們都是投機者
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Then market stocks seize
接著股票市場蕭條衰敗
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and we're like, "Wow.
我們會想,“噢
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These losses, they feel, emotionally,
這些損失,在情感上
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they feel very different
他們確實感覺很不同
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from what we actually thought about it
和股市行情上漲時
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when markets were going up."
我們對損失的感覺不一樣”
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So we're probably not doing a great job
所以在風險投機上
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when it comes to risk taking.
我們似乎也做的不太好
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How many of you have iPhones?
你們有多少人用iPhone?
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Anyone? Wonderful.
有人麼?非常好
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I would bet many more of you
我打賭這裡擁有iPhone的人中的大多數
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insure your iPhone --
都給你的iPhone買保險了
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you're implicitly buying insurance by having an extended warranty.
你通過加買的質保暗中給手機買了保險
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What if you lose your iPhone?
如果你丟失了你的iPhone
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What if you do this?
你會怎麼辦呢?
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How many of you have kids?
你們中多少人有小孩?
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Anyone?
有人有嗎?
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Keep your hands up
手再擧著不要放
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if you have sufficient life insurance.
如果你有購買生命保險的話
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I see a lot of hands coming down.
我看到很多手放下去了
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I would predict,
我會預測
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if you're a representative sample,
如果你是一個典型的代表
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that many more of you
你們中的很多人
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insure your iPhones than your lives,
為你的iPhone買了保險卻沒有為你的生命買保險
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even when you have kids.
即便你已經有了小孩
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We're not doing that well when it comes to insurance.
在買保險的方面我們做得也不是很好
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The average American household
美國家庭平均每戶
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spends 1,000 dollars a year
一年要在樂透上
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on lotteries.
花費1,000美元
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And I know it sounds crazy.
我知道這聽起來很瘋狂
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How many of you spend a thousand dollars a year on lotteries?
你們中有多少人一年會花1,000美金買樂透?
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No one.
沒有人
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So that tells us that the people not in this room
那麽這告訴我們有些不在這個房間裡的人
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are spending more than a thousand
買樂透超過了一千美金
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to get the average to a thousand.
所以最終平均才會等於一千美金
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Low-income people
特別是有些低收入戶
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spend a lot more than a thousand on lotteries.
一年在樂透上花費了超過一千美金
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So where does it take us?
於是這告訴我們甚麼?
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We're not doing a great job managing money.
我們在理財上做得也不是很好
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Behavioral finance is really a combination
行為經濟學實際上
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of psychology and economics,
是心理學和經濟學的一個綜合
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trying to understand
讓我們瞭解
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the money mistakes people make.
為甚麼人們在金錢問題上會犯錯
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And I can keep standing here
我可以站在這裡
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for the 12 minutes and 53 seconds that I have left
用我剩下的12分鐘53秒
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and make fun of all sorts of ways
把我們理財用的各種方法
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we manage money,
當作笑話講給各位聼
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and at the end you're going to ask, "How can we help people?"
到最後你會問,“我們怎樣幫助人們?”
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And that's what I really want to focus on today.
所以我今天真正想關注的是
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How do we take an understanding
我們如何理解
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of the money mistakes people make,
人們在金錢問題上犯的錯誤
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and then turning the behavioral challenges
以及怎樣把行為性挑戰
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into behavioral solutions?
轉化為行為性的解決方案?
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And what I'm going to talk about today
我今天要談的
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is Save More Tomorrow.
是為明天節省更多
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I want to address the issue
我要討論的
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of savings.
是存錢這個問題
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We have on the screen
在屏幕上
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a representative sample
有具有代表性的
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of 100 Americans.
100個美國人
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And we're going to look at their saving behavior.
我們來看看他們的儲蓄習慣
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First thing to notice is,
第一件需要注意的事情是
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half of them
他們中一半的人
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do not even have access
都沒有參加
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to a 401(k) plan.
401(k)退休福利計劃
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They cannot make savings easy.
存錢對他們來説很不容易
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They cannot have money go away from their paycheck
他們不能把錢從他們的支票
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into a 401(k) plan
押到進入401(k)計劃裏
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before they see it,
他們一看到錢就花
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before they can touch it.
一摸到錢就花
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What about the remaining half of the people?
那麼剩下的一半人呢?
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Some of them elect not to save.
一些人傾向於不存款
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They're just too lazy.
他們只是太懶了
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They never get around to logging into a complicated website
他們從沒有登入過一個複雜一點的網站
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and doing 17 clicks to join the 401(k) plan.
點擊17下加入401(k)計劃
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And then they have to decide how they're going to invest
當他們決定他們要去投資的時候
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in their 52 choices,
在他們的52個選擇裡
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and they never heard about what is a money market fund.
他們從未聽說過基金
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And they get overwhelmed and the just don't join.
他們覺得太複雜了於是就沒加入
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How many people end up saving to a 401(k) plan?
最終有多少人向該計劃存款?
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One third of Americans.
只有三分之一的美國人
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Two thirds are not saving now.
三分之二都不存款
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Are they saving enough?
他們存得夠多嗎?
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Take out those
除去那些
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who say they save too little.
說自己存的太少的人
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One out of 10
十分之一的人
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are saving enough.
覺得自己存款夠了
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Nine out of 10
十分之九
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either cannot save through their 401(k) plan,
有的不能徹底執行401(k)計劃存到退休金
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decide not to save -- or don't decide --
所以決定不存或是下不了決定
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or save too little.
有的則是存得太少
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We think we have a problem
對於那些存款太多的人
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of people saving too much.
我們覺得也有一些問題
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Let's look at that.
我們來看這裡
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We have one person --
有一個人-
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well, actually we're going to slice him in half
其實我們要把他切成一半
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because it's less than one percent.
因為小於百分之一
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Roughly half a percent of Americans
差不多只有百分之零點五的美國人
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feel that they save too much.
認為他們存得夠多了
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What are we going to do about it?
我們對此能做甚麼呢?
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That's what I really want to focus on.
以下就是我真正想要關注的
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We have to understand
我們必須先明白
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why people are not saving,
為甚麼人們不去存款
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and then we can hopefully flip
接著我們才能
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the behavioral challenges
把行為性挑戰
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into behavioral solutions,
轉化為行為性解決方案
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and then see how powerful it might be.
並看看這會有多大效果
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So let me divert for a second
所以接下來讓我稍微轉移一下話題
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as we're going to identify the problems,
因爲我們必須要認清問題
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the challenges, the behavioral challenges,
我們面對的挑戰,行為性挑戰
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that prevent people from saving.
去找出阻止人們存錢的原因
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I'm going to divert and talk about bananas and chocolate.
我要轉移到下一個話題,來談談香蕉和巧克力
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Suppose we had another wonderful TED event next week.
假設下一周我們有另一場非常棒的TED活動
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And during the break
休息期間
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there would be a snack
將會有零食供應
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and you could choose bananas or chocolate.
你可以選擇香蕉或是巧克力
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How many of you think you would like to have bananas
你們中有多少人覺得你會在
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during this hypothetical TED event next week?
下週假想的晚會中選擇香蕉?
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Who would go for bananas?
誰會選擇香蕉?
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Wonderful.
不錯
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I predict scientifically
我科學地預測一下
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74 percent of you will go for bananas.
百分之七十四的人會選擇香蕉
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Well that's at least what one wonderful study predicted.
這至少是一個權威的科學研究預測的
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And then count down the days
接著我們倒數日子
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and see what people ended up eating.
最後來看看人們最後到底吃了些甚麼
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The same people that imagined themselves
一個禮拜之後
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eating the bananas
那些認為
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ended up eating chocolates
他們會吃香蕉的人
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a week later.
最終都選擇了巧克力
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Self-control
自制力
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is not a problem in the future.
在未來來説並不是一個問題
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It's only a problem now
當巧克力離我們很近的時候
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when the chocolate is next to us.
自制力就會有問題了
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What does it have to do with time and savings,
這種瞬間的喜悅
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this issue of immediate gratification?
和我們時間以及儲蓄有甚麼關聯?
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Or as some economists call it, present bias.
或者就像一些經濟學家所講的,現在狀態的偏見
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We think about saving. We know we should be saving.
我們想著如何儲蓄,我們知道我們應該存錢
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We know we'll do it next year, but today let us go and spend.
我們知道明年我們會做,但是今天就讓我們花錢吧
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Christmas is coming,
聖誕節要來了
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we might as well buy a lot of gifts for everyone we know.
我們最好給我們認識的人買很多禮物
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So this issue of present bias
所以“現在狀態的偏見”
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causes us to think about saving,
導致我們考慮儲蓄
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but end up spending.
最後卻把錢花掉了
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Let me now talk
讓我現在來講
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about another behavioral obstacle to saving
另一個關於儲蓄的行為性障礙
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having to do with inertia.
這和慣性有關
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But again, a little diversion
再一次,小小地轉移話題
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to the topic of organ donation.
到器官捐獻上
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Wonderful study comparing different countries.
有一份很完美的研究比較了不同國家之間的情況
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We're going to look at two similar countries,
我們來看兩個相似的國家
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Germany and Austria.
德國和奧地利
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And in Germany,
在德國
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if you would like to donate your organs --
如果你想要捐贈你的器官-
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God forbid something really bad
上帝會禁止一些非常壞的事情
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happens to you --
發生在你的身上
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when you get your driving license or an I.D.,
當你拿到你的駕照或是一個ID卡
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you check the box saying,
勾選一個小方格
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"I would like to donate my organs."
“我願意捐贈我的器官”
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Not many people like checking boxes.
不太多人願意勾選小方格
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It takes effort. You need to think.
這要花費力氣,你需要想
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Twelve percent do.
百分之十二的人會去勾選
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Austria, a neighboring country,
在鄰國奧地利
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slightly similar, slightly different.
有點相同而又有點不同
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What's the difference?
有甚麼不同?
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Well, you still have choice.
嗯,你還是可以選擇的
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You will decide
你會選
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whether you want to donate your organs or not.
是否希望捐贈器官
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But when you get your driving license,
但當你得到你的駕照
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you check the box
你要勾選一個方格
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if you do not want to donate your organ.
“如果你不想要捐贈你的器官”
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Nobody checks boxes.
基本上沒有人勾這項
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That's kind of too much effort.
這太費力氣了
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One percent check the box. The rest do nothing.
只有百分之一的人勾選,剩下的人甚麼都沒做
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Doing nothing is very common.
放著不做是通常會發生的行為
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Not many people check boxes.
沒幾個人勾選方格
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What are the implications
拯救生命
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to saving lives
和捐贈器官之間
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and having organs available?
有什麽關聯?
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In Germany, 12 percent check the box.
在德國,百分之十二的人勾選這個格子
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Twelve percent are organ donors.
於是只有百分之十二的人成為器官捐贈者
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Huge shortage of organs,
導致了巨大的器官短缺
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God forbid, if you need one.
當你需要時上帝會禁止
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In Austria, again, nobody checks the box.
在奧地利,沒有人勾選這個方格
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Therefore, 99 percent of people
於是,百分之九十九的人
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are organ donors.
都是器官捐贈者
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Inertia, lack of action.
慣性,缺乏行動
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What is the default setting
原始狀態會是什麽
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if people do nothing,
如果人們甚麼都不做?
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if they keep procrastinating, if they don't check the boxes?
如果他們一直拖延,如果他們不勾選方格?
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Very powerful.
這是非常有效的
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We're going to talk
我們即將講到
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about what happens if people are overwhelmed and scared
如果人們覺得難以應付或害怕
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to make their 401(k) choices.
去加入401(k)計劃
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Are we going to make them automatically join the plan,
我們是讓他們自動加入計劃
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or are they going to be left out?
還是就放任不管?
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In too many 401(k) plans,
在太多的計劃之中
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if people do nothing,
如果人們甚麼都不做
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it means they're not saving for retirement,
如果他們不勾選方格
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if they don't check the box.
意味著他們並沒有在儲存退休金
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And checking the box takes effort.
當然勾選方格需要付出努力
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So we've chatted about a couple of behavioral challenges.
以上我們談了幾項行為性挑戰
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One more before we flip the challenges into solutions,
在談解決方案之前我們還要再講一個例子
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having to do with monkeys and apples.
是關於猴子和蘋果的例子
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No, no, no, this is a real study
不不不,這是一個真實的研究
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and it's got a lot to do with behavioral economics.
這和行為經濟學有很大關係
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One group of monkeys gets an apple, they're pretty happy.
一群猴子得到一個蘋果,他們很開心
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The other group gets two apples, one is taken away.
另外一群猴子得到兩個蘋果,其中一個被拿走了
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They still have an apple left.
他們仍然有一個蘋果
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They're really mad.
不過他們非常生氣
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Why have you taken our apple?
“你為甚麼拿走我們的蘋果?”
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This is the notion of loss aversion.
這就叫做對於失去的厭惡感
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We hate losing stuff,
我們憎恨失去東西
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even if it doesn't mean a lot of risk.
即使這並不意味著很高風險
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You would hate to go to the ATM,
你不會喜歡去自動提款機提款時
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take out 100 dollars
提出100美金以後
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and notice that you lost one of those $20 bills.
發現你丟失了其中一張20元的鈔票
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It's very painful,
即使這沒什麽大不了
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even though it doesn't mean anything.
但這卻很令人痛苦
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Those 20 dollars might have been a quick lunch.
用這20美金本來可以吃一頓午餐
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So this notion of loss aversion
所以關於失去厭惡感的想法
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kicks in when it comes to savings too,
同樣也會發生在儲蓄上
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because people, mentally
因為人,在精神上
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and emotionally and intuitively
和情緒上直覺地認為
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frame savings as a loss
存錢儲蓄是一種失去