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  • >> STEPHEN: WELCOME BACK.

  • MY GUEST TONIGHT IS AN EMMY AND FROM "IF BEALE STREET COULD

  • TALK," "WATCHMEN," AND SO MUCH MORE.

  • NOW SHE'S DIRECTED HER FIRST FEATURE FILM, "ONE NIGHT IN

  • MIAMI."

  • PLEASE WELCOME REGINA KING!

  • HEY, REGINA KING.

  • >> HELLO!

  • >> Stephen: NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

  • >> IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.

  • I WISH I WAS THERE IN PERSON, BUT --

  • >> Stephen: I WISH SO, TOO, BECAUSE THAT MEAN THERE WOULD BE

  • AN AUDIENCE AND WE ALL WOULD BE HAVING A LOT MORE FUN, BUT I'M

  • GLAD WE COULD BE TOGETHER THIS WAY IF NO OTHER WAY.

  • I WANT TO GET TO THE FILM IN JUST A MOMENT, WHICH IS

  • BEAUTIFUL AND POWERFUL AND, BOY, IT EMOTIONALLY SNEAKS UP ON YOU

  • IN A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

  • BUT FIRST, THE LAST TIME THAT YOU WERE HERE -- HERE -- WAS

  • FOR, "IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK."

  • AND THEN, SINCE THEN, YOU WON AN OSCAR FOR YOUR PERFORMANCE IN

  • THAT MOVIE.

  • THEN YOU WON AN EMMY FOR "WATCHMEN."

  • NOW YOU'VE DIRECTED YOUR FIRST PEACH FILM "ONE NIGHT IN MIAMI."

  • SOMETIMES I MEET VERY TALENTED PEOPLE FOR WHOM THE RIGHT THING,

  • YOU KNOW, IS HAPPENING.

  • AND WHILE IT'S GREAT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO APPRECIATE HOW

  • WONDERFUL THINGS ARE GOING FOR THEM.

  • DO YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO ENJOY IT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN SO

  • BUSY?

  • >> UM -- THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION RIGHT NOW DURING THE

  • PANDEMIC.

  • >> Stephen: SURE.

  • I WOULD SAY THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE HAD MORE CELEBRATORY

  • MOMENTS, IF WE WERE NOT CONFINED TO OUR HOMES.

  • SO MOMENTS LIKE THESE ARE SPECIAL BECAUSE I HAVE SOMEONE

  • THAT I'M A FAN OF AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE I'M TAKING A MOMENT

  • TO TAKE IT IN.

  • SO, YEAH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A YES AND NO ANSWER.

  • >> Stephen: SURE, SURE.

  • THAT'S A LOT OF LIFE THESE DAYS.

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, YOU DIRECTED THIS NEW FILM, "ONE NIGHT IN

  • MIAMI."

  • IT'S ABOUT A REAL NIGHT.

  • YOU KNOW, THE EVENTS ARE IMAGINED OF THIS NIGHT, BUT THIS

  • REALLY HAPPENED.

  • IT WAS MALCOLM X, MOHAMED ALI, JIM BROWN AND SAM COOKE GATHERED

  • TOGETHER IN A HOTEL IN MIAMI IN FEBRUARY 18964.

  • FIRST OF ALL, TELL THE PEOPLE WHAT THE OCCASION OF THE NIGHT

  • WAS.

  • WHAT SORT OF BROUGHT THEM ALL TO MIAMI THAT NIGHT?

  • >> RIGHT.

  • WHAT BROUGHT THEM ALL TOGETHER WAS THERE WAS A FIGHT BETWEEN

  • CASSIUS CLAY AND SONNY LISTEN, AND IT WAS THE FIGHT WHO WAS

  • GOING TO WHOEVER WAS THE VICTOR WAS GOING TO BE THE HEAVY WEIGHT

  • CHAVRP ONE OF THE WORLD.

  • AND CASSIUS CLAY, WHO LATER BECAME MOHAMED ALI WAS NOT THE

  • FAVORITE.

  • HE WAS NOT EXPECTED TO WIN, SO THERE WAS NO PARTY PLAN, SO HE

  • CELEBRATED WITH THREE OF HIS FRIENDS.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, ALL THESE MEN, CERTAINLY, NOW, JIM BROWN'S

  • STILL WITH US, BUT ALL OF THEM ARE OF JUST A HUGE STATURE, NOT

  • ONLY IN THEIR CHOSEN WORK, BUT IN OUR HISTORY AND IN OUR

  • CULTURE.

  • WHAT IS IT LIKE TO DEPICT PEOPLE FOR WHOM IS AUDIENCE ALREADY HAS

  • SUCH A PRE-SET IMAGE AND IDEA?

  • >> YEAH.

  • I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG FLEX TO MAKE.

  • WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE NIGHT, I WASN'T AWARE OF IT PRIOR TO

  • READING THE SCRIPT.

  • KIPP POWERS WROTE THE SCRIPT.

  • IT WAS A PLAY HE HAD WRITTEN AND HE ADAPTED IT INTO A SCREENPLAY,

  • AND YOU JUST WANT TO HONOR THESE MEN, THEIR LEGACIES, YOU KNOW.

  • YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU TELL A STORY THAT'S ENTERTAINING BUT

  • ALSO THE IMPACT -- TO SHARE THE IMPACT THAT THEY MADE.

  • BUT, ALSO, IT WAS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THEM AS MEN

  • OUT ALL THE TITLES, WITHOUT ACTIVIST, ATHLETE, SINGER, BUT

  • MEN IN THE VULNERABILITIES THAT ALL MEN HAVE AND HOW THROUGH

  • THAT VULNERABILITY BRINGS STRENGTH.

  • >> Stephen: THERE'S A PARTICULAR POIGNANCY TO THE

  • VULNERABILITY WE SEE EXPRESSED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF MALCOLM X,

  • BECAUSE HE IS SUCH A FIGURE OF STRENGTH, YOU KNOW.

  • AND A CERTAIN TYPE OF AGGRESSIVE STRENGTH, CERTAINLY, AT A CASUAL

  • GLANCE OF HIS PUBLIC PER SEWNA.

  • WE HAVE A CLIP HERE OF THESE ARE THE FOUR MEN ON THE ROOFTOP.

  • CAN YOU TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS MOMENTAL?

  • >> THIS IS A MOMENT KIND OF LIKE MIDWAY IN THE FILM, WHERE

  • CASSIUS HAS NOTICED A TENSION THAT'S GOING ON IN THE ROOM AND

  • HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO TAKE A BREATHER.

  • SO WE'RE IN THIS MOMENT AND, YOU KNOW, THE AUDIENCE IS BREATHING

  • WITH OUR FOUR HEROES, WE CALL THEM, OUR HISTORICAL AVENGERS,

  • AND WE GET TO SEE ONE OF THE MOMENTS WHERE MALCOLM IS REALLY

  • QUIET AND I GUESS A BIT INTROSPECIFIC.

  • >> Stephen: JIM.

  • YEAH, APPEARS COOLER.

  • AWAY FROM THE PRYING EYES OF YOUR G MEN.

  • >> YEAH, YOU JOKE ALL YOU WANT, SAM.

  • I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S GOT WORSE SINCE THE TENSION BETWEEN ME AND

  • MR. MOHAMED.

  • >> I MET WITH A WRITER IN NEW YORK A FEW WEEKS BACK, TWO

  • GUYS FOLLOWING US THROUGH THE AIRPORT.

  • I SWEAR IT WAS THE SAME TWO.

  • >> I THOUGHT YOU DIDN'T TRUST WRITERS.

  • >> OH, THIS ONE WAS A BROTHER, AND THIS MEETING WAS IMPORTANT.

  • I FIGURE I BETTER START GETTING MY LIFE STORY DOCUMENTED IN MY

  • OWN WORDS WHEN I CAN.

  • >> Stephen: ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE WE WENT

  • INTO THAT CLIP WAS THE TENSION BETWEEN THESE FOUR MEN, AND TO

  • SIMPLIFY IT FOR OUR AUDIENCE, JUST FOR THE CONVERSATION, THERE

  • IS A TENSION BETWEEN ALL OF THEM DRIVEN BY THE CONVERSATION

  • THAT'S BEING DIRECTED IN SOME WAYS BY MALCOLM X ABILITY HOW

  • EACH OF THESE MEN CAN USE THEIR CELEBRITY, THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS,

  • THEIR RELATIVE PRIVILEGE WITHIN SOCIETY TO FURTHER THE CAUSE OF

  • LIBERATING BLACK PEOPLE, TO ACHIEVING BLACK POWER, AS

  • MOHAMED ALI AND SAM COOKE TALK ABOUT LATER, THERE ARE VERY

  • DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT HOW THAT'S ACHIEVABLE IN THIS MOVIE.

  • WHICH THEORY RINGS MOST POSSIBLE TO YOU?

  • >> ACTUALLY, FOR ME, STEPHEN, THEY'RE BOTH EQUALLY POSSIBLE

  • AND THEY BOTH RING TRUE TO ME.

  • I FEEL LIKE BOTH STYLES, IF YOU WILL, OF ACHIEVING RACIAL

  • EQUALITY OR BLACK POWER, AS CASSIUS SAYS IN THE FILM, ARE

  • NECESSARY.

  • I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE SITUATIONAL.

  • IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE UP AGAINST.

  • SOMETIMES IT IS, YOU KNOW, LET'S TEAR IT DOWN AND START ALL OVER,

  • AND SOMETIMES IT'S WORKING INSIDE OUT FROM AN ECONOMIC

  • SPACE, LIKE SAM SPEAKS ABOUT.

  • SO I RELATE TO BOTH.

  • I DO.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, SAM COOKE IS PORTRAYED BY LESLIE ODOM, SUCH A

  • BRILLIANT PERFORMANCE.

  • AND COOKE HIMSELF IS SUCH A POWERFUL FIGURE.

  • MALCOLM X SAYS YOU MIGHT HAVE A BETTER CHANCE THAN SOMEBODY ELSE

  • BECAUSE OF THE MAGIC MUSIC CREATES AND CHANGES A HEART FROM

  • A DISTANCE.

  • WHAT LED YOU TO CASTING LESLIE ODOM, JR.

  • HAD YOU SEEN HIM IN "HAMILTON"?

  • >> I HAD SEEN "HAMILTON" BUT NOT THE CAST WITH LESLIE ODOM.

  • I HAD A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT I WAS THINKING OF THAT POTENTIALLY

  • COULD BE GOOD FOR ALL FOUR OF THE ROLES, AND LESLIE -- I HAD

  • SEEN HIM IN A NATIONWIDE COMMERCIAL -- W

  • ( LAUGHTER ) -- AND SOMETHING JUST ABOUT THE

  • WAY HE WAS CARRYING HIMSELF FELT VERY SAM COOKE-ESQUE TO ME.

  • >> Stephen: SURE.

  • AND I ASKED ME SON, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS ABOUT --

  • I'M TRYING TO THINK OF YOUNG ACTORS I'M NOT THINKING OF FOR

  • ANY OF THESE ROLES.

  • HE SAID, OH, MOM, THAT DUDE IN THE NATIONWIDE COMMERCIAL MIGHT

  • BE GOOD FOR SAM COOKE.

  • I THOUGHT, THERE YOU GO!

  • >> Stephen: TWO POINTS MAKE A LINE.

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: A BRILLIANT FILM.

  • THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

  • >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

  • >> STEPHEN: "ONE NIGHT IN MIAMI" IS AVAILABLE NOW ON AMAZON

  • PRIME.

  • REGINA KING, EVERYBODY!

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A PERFORMANCE BY VIC MENSA.

  • ♪♪♪

>> STEPHEN: WELCOME BACK.

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