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  • - [Reporter] As cancel culture

    - 記者】由於取消文化

  • is infiltrating everywhere.

    正在到處滲透。

  • And it doesn't even. - The way of me making change

    而且它甚至沒有。- 我改變的方式

  • - And this cancel culture. - Is be as judgemental as

    - 而這種取消文化。- 是作為判斷力

  • possible about other people. - Cancel culture in a nutshell

    可能對其他人。- 取消文化的簡述

  • Cancel culture actually. - Cancel culture.

    取消文化其實。- 取消文化。

  • - Freedom of speech. - Cancel culture.

    - 言論自由。- 取消文化。

  • (dramatic music)

  • - Let's talk about cancel culture.

    - 我們來談談取消文化。

  • I'm gonna assume you know that cancel culture is a form

    我想你應該知道,取消文化是一種

  • of a boycott involving an individual.

    涉及個人的抵制活動;

  • Usually a celebrity, who is deemed to have

    通常是名人,被認為有

  • had problematic behavior

    有問題

  • or who has said something questionable and controversial.

    或說過一些有問題和有爭議的話的人。

  • There have been countless videos and numerous takes

    已經有無數的視頻和無數的拍攝

  • on why cancel culture itself has become problematic.

    關於為什麼取消文化本身已經成為問題。

  • The way that we judge an entire flawed growing human being

    我們對整個有缺陷的成長中的人類的評判方式。

  • by one moment in time taken out of that time

    時光荏苒

  • social context, thanks to social media and the internet.

    社會背景,由於社交媒體和互聯網。

  • Ironically enough, cancel cultures origins apparently come

    具有諷刺意味的是,取消文化的起源顯然是來自於 "中國"。

  • from a misogynistic joke.

    從一個厭惡女性的笑話。

  • Possibly the first reference to canceling someone comes

    可能是第一次提到取消某人的時候。

  • with the 1991 film, "New Jack City".

    與1991年的電影《新傑克城》。

  • In which Wesley Snipes plays a gangster named Nino Brown.

    韋斯利-斯奈普斯在其中飾演一個名叫尼諾-布朗的黑幫老大。

  • In one scene after his girlfriend breaks

    在一場戲中,他的女友分手後

  • down because of all the violence he's causing.

    因為他造成的暴力事件而被打倒。

  • He dumps her by saying,

    他甩了她說。

  • "Cancel that bitch, I'll buy another one."

    "取消那個婊子,我再買一個。"

  • Jump to 2010 when Lil Wayne referenced the film

    跳到2010年,Lil Wayne提到了這部電影。

  • and a line from his song, "I'm single".

    以及他那首《我是單身》中的一句話。

  • "Yeah. I'm single, had to cancel that bitch like Nino."

    "是啊,我是單身,不得不取消那個像尼諾一樣的婊子。"

  • This callback to the earlier sexist cancel joke

    這回調了之前的性別歧視取消的笑話

  • probably helped the phrase percolate for a while.

    可能幫助這句話醞釀了一段時間。

  • And then several decades later gained massive popularity

    幾十年後又得到了大規模的普及

  • in 2018 and 2019 as evidenced by this Google trends data.

    在2018年和2019年,從谷歌的這個趨勢數據可以看出。

  • Of course, there are certain cancel people

    當然,也有某些取消的人

  • who absolutely deserve to be stripped of their power

    咎由自取

  • and made to pay the consequences of their actions.

    併為其行為的後果付出代價。

  • If you're a serial rapist,

    如果你是一個連環強姦犯。

  • abuser, convicted pedophile, murderer

    虐待者、被定罪的戀童癖、殺人犯

  • or someone who likes fucking cantaloupe

    或有人誰喜歡他媽的哈密瓜。

  • then you deserve to be canceled.

    那你活該被取消。

  • And more importantly, probably serve jail time.

    更重要的是,可能要坐牢。

  • 'Cause if you actually enjoy cantaloupe

    因為如果你真的喜歡哈密瓜的話

  • you should not be free to walk the streets

    閒庭信步

  • and there's something incredibly wrong with you.

    有什麼東西 令人難以置信的錯誤與你。

  • What I do wanna add

    我想補充的是

  • to the cancel culture conversation are three things.

    到取消文化的談話有三點。

  • One, how cancel culture is weaponized against others.

    其一,取消文化是如何武器化地對付別人的。

  • Two, how we weaponize cancel culture for ourselves

    二、我們如何將取消文化武器化為己用

  • and three, how we can actually fix

    第三,我們如何才能真正解決

  • this monster that we have created.

    這個我們創造的怪物。

  • Though cancel culture began with good intentions

    雖然取消文化的初衷是好的

  • and undeniably has brought some predators to light.

    且不可否認的是,已經讓一些掠奪者曝光了。

  • We're now witnessing the intentional weaponization

    我們現在看到的是蓄意的武器化。

  • of cancel culture against others.

    取消文化對他人的。

  • Some people use this

    有些人用這個

  • to their own advantage, hurling accusations

    投其所好,橫加指責

  • in order to get revenge for personal matters.

    為了報私仇。

  • If you're not familiar

    如果你不熟悉

  • with the Tati Westbrook and James Charles drama,

    與塔蒂-維斯特布魯克和詹姆斯-查爾斯的劇。

  • Westbrook insists her video calling James Charles

    威斯布魯克堅稱她的視頻叫詹姆斯-查爾斯。

  • out a video that used language to insinuate

    出了一個視頻,用語言影射了

  • that he was a sexual predator,

    他是一個性侵犯者。

  • was because Westbrook thought this was the only way

    因為威斯布魯克認為這是唯一的辦法。

  • to get Charles the help he needed

    讓查爾斯得到他需要的幫助

  • and not because she was upset

    而不是因為她不高興

  • that he promoted vitamins that weren't hers.

    他推廣的維生素不是她的。

  • You can watch the hours

    你可以看時間

  • of videos if you want they'll dissect this topic to all hell

    的視頻,如果你想,他們會剖析這個話題,所有的地獄。

  • but I can tell you, it was about the vitamins.

    但我可以告訴你,這是關於維生素。

  • This weaponization of cancel culture is not exclusive

    這種取消文化的武器化並不是唯一的

  • to individual against individual.

    到個人對個人。

  • (upbeat music)

    (歡快的音樂)

  • Fandoms rally against properties they aren't satisfied with.

    影迷們對自己不滿意的屬性進行反彈。

  • Most notably the "Sonic the Hedgehog" film.

    最值得一提的是《刺蝟索尼克》電影。

  • Now, when the trailer came out in April of 2019

    現在,當2019年4月的預告片出來後。

  • it was heavily roasted online

    鬧得沸沸揚揚

  • and had a nearly 50% dislike ratio.

    並有近50%的不喜歡比例。

  • And I mean, yeah, he looks horrifying.

    我的意思是,是的,他看起來很可怕。

  • The reaction of the internet was not wrong here.

    網友的反應在這裡沒有錯。

  • I mean, he had a human freaking teeth for crying out loud

    我的意思是,他有一個人類的牙齒 哭了出來。

  • this a creepy boy, but the Twitter outrage mob

    這是一個令人毛骨悚然的男孩,但Twitter憤怒的暴徒

  • on Sonic was according to the Hollywood reporter.

    上的聲波是根據好萊塢記者。

  • So immediate and loud that Paramount pushed the release date

    如此立竿見影,聲勢浩大,派拉蒙將上映日期推了出來

  • and had the VFX team redesign Sonic

    並讓VFX團隊重新設計Sonic

  • with an appearance that matched the Sega games.

    與世嘉遊戲相匹配的外觀。

  • It's hard to argue that this weaponization

    很難說這種武器化的做法

  • and power of the internet of Fandom was necessarily wrong

    和力量的互聯網的Fandom必然是錯誤的

  • because when you compare the two designs

    因為當你比較這兩種設計

  • one is clearly way less creepy.

    一個是明顯的方式少毛骨悚然。

  • I think we can all agree that the redesign is cuter

    我想我們都同意,重新設計是可愛的。

  • and more approachable and feels less

    和更平易近人,感覺不那麼

  • like a creature who eats and enjoys cantaloupe.

    就像一個吃著哈密瓜,享受著哈密瓜的生物。

  • But nonetheless, this is still weaponization.

    但儘管如此,這仍然是武器化。

  • And in this case, things came seemingly all

    而在這種情況下,事情似乎都來了

  • out for the better

    好處

  • given that it set the record for the biggest opening weekend

    鑑於它創下了最大的首映週末紀錄。

  • for a video game film in the United States

    在美國的視頻遊戲電影

  • and Canada hauling an estimated 57 million.

    和加拿大拖著約5700萬。

  • I mean, Sonic ultimately ended

    我的意思是,聲波最終結束

  • up grossing over 319 million worldwide.

    了全球總收入超過3.19億。

  • And even with the redesign, the budget was about 95 million.

    而即使重新設計,預算也是9500萬左右。

  • So this entire debacle had a happy ending

    所以整個事件有一個圓滿的結局

  • but I would argue that it sets a pretty dangerous precedent.

    但我想說,這是個相當危險的先例。

  • I mean, how much

    我的意思是,多少錢

  • of a say should audiences have over creative choices?

    觀眾對創意的選擇應該有多少發言權?

  • How many times have we seen movies canceled based

    有多少次我們看到電影被取消的基礎上。

  • on their trailers, which by the way

    在他們的拖車上,順便說一下

  • most filmmakers have no control

    大多數電影人無法控制

  • over the way that their movie is marketed.

    在他們電影的營銷方式上。

  • Usually, it's at the discretion of the film distributor

    通常,這是由電影發行商決定的。

  • and we all know how misleading trailers can be

    我們都知道預告片有多大的誤導性。

  • in order to get us to watch the movie.

    為了讓我們看電影。

  • And though this Sonic incident turned out well

    雖然這次聲波事件的結果很好

  • we've seen outrage mobs in other contexts,

    我們已經看到憤怒的暴徒在其他情況下。

  • particularly academics.

    特別是學術界。

  • And these mobs have often succeeded in silencing professors,

    而這些暴徒往往成功地讓教授們閉嘴。

  • philosophers and journalists.

    哲學家和記者。

  • Take the case of Rebecca Tuvel

    以Rebecca Tuvel的案子為例

  • who in 2017, published an article, addressing the question

    誰在2017年,發表了一篇文章,解決了這個問題。

  • of transracialism, which was relevant at the time

    當時相關的跨種族主義的問題。

  • because of the news coverage of Rachel Dolezal,

    因為雷切爾-多爾扎爾的新聞報道。

  • a white woman who claimed black identity.

    一個自稱黑人身份的白人婦女。

  • In the paper, in defense of transracialism.

    在文件中,為跨種族主義辯護。

  • Tuvel examined the arguments

    Tuvel研究了這些論點

  • you use to defend a transgender identity

    你用來維護變性人身份

  • and applied these to the question of transracialism.

    並將其應用於跨種族問題。

  • This is a very common technique among philosophers,

    這是哲學家們非常常用的手法。

  • testing if reasoning used on one issue would apply equally

    檢驗在一個問題上使用的推理是否同樣適用。

  • to a different issue that appeared to close parallel.

    到一個看似接近平行的不同問題。

  • The negative social media response to Tuvel's article, huge.

    社交媒體對圖維爾文章的負面反應,巨大。

  • An open letter with 500 signatures

    有500人簽名的公開信

  • which apparently was mostly signed by non-academics was sent

    其中顯然大部分是由非學術界人士簽署的,被寄給了美國政府。

  • to the publication, demanding that the article be retracted

    致函該刊,要求撤銷該文章。

  • and it was, an unprecedented move.

    而這,是一個前所未有的舉動。

  • Now the academic community itself largely supported Tuvel.

    現在學界本身就基本支持圖維爾。

  • Pointing out how several statements

    指出若干聲明如何

  • in the open letter were false and misleading

    公開信中的內容是虛假和誤導性的。

  • and did not reflect the actual content of Tuvel's paper.

    並沒有反映圖維爾論文的實際內容。

  • The Intelligencer has a great breakdown

    Intelligencer有一個很好的分析

  • of Tuvel's paper that debunks most

    揭穿了圖維爾論文中的大部分內容

  • of the assertions in the open letter

    公開信中的論斷

  • and I'll link it if you wanna read it.

    如果你想看的話,我會把它鏈接起來。

  • Tuvel herself went on the record to say

    圖維爾自己也曾公開表示

  • that she had written the article from a place

    她是在一個地方寫的文章

  • of support for those with non-normative identities

    對非正常身份者的支持;

  • because she saw transphobic logic lay

    因為她看到了變性人的邏輯

  • at the heart of the attacks against Dolezal.

    攻擊多爾扎爾的核心。

  • Now I'm not here to comment on who was right

    我現在不是來評論誰是對的

  • or who was wrong 'cause I'm not an academic

    或誰是錯的,因為我不是一個學者。

  • or a transgender person or a transracial person.

    或變性人或跨種族人。

  • My only thought on the entire controversy

    我對整個爭議的唯一想法

  • of this, is that if people found fault with it

    這一點,是如果人們發現它的錯誤。

  • they should have addressed it critically

    他們應該認真對待

  • with critical thought.

    具有批判性思維。

  • The level of outrage

    憤怒的程度

  • and personal attacks that Tuvel faced was not warranted

    和人身攻擊是沒有道理的

  • for an academic article rooted in philosophical thought

    哲理文章,以饗讀者

  • and examination, because this is what philosophy is

    因為這才是哲學的本質

  • for - to examine why we think the things we think

    為--研究我們為什麼會有這樣的想法。

  • and bring different viewpoints to the discussion for debate.

    並將不同的觀點帶到討論中進行辯論。

  • But the culture we live in is moving at such a rapid speed.

    但我們所處的文化發展速度如此之快。

  • What is socially acceptable

    什麼是社會可以接受的

  • or not changes incredibly quickly.

    或不變化的速度快得驚人。

  • The norms around gender

    關於性別的規範

  • and identity are in flux and philosophy.

    和身份的變化和哲學。

  • You know, they got a lot to examine right now.

    你知道,他們現在有很多東西要研究。

  • And if we find fault with one of those assertions

    如果我們發現其中一個斷言有問題的話

  • we should make sure to note the context is

    我們要注意的是,上下文是

  • within academic speculation and address it accordingly

    內,並據此處理

  • without threatening someone's life or family or employment

    在不危及他人生命、家庭或工作的情況下,

  • when they're doing the very thing

    當他們正在做的事情

  • that they're employed to do.

    他們受僱於人的工作。

  • Now, if Tuvel's article was like a hate piece

    現在,如果圖維爾的文章就像一篇仇恨的文章一樣

  • that attempted to invalidate trans identity

    試圖使變性人身份無效的問題

  • and was laid in with obscenities

    並被鋪上了淫穢的語言

  • like that's a different story, but it wasn't.

    就像那是一個不同的故事,但它不是。

  • And I'm very curious how many people who signed

    我很好奇,有多少人簽了字?

  • that open letter one, actually read Tuvel's article

    那封公開信一,其實是讀圖維爾的文章。

  • and not just the provocative headline

    而不僅僅是挑釁性的標題

  • and two, have the academic background

    二、有學術背景

  • to even understand why the explorative article was written

    甚至理解為什麼要寫這篇探索性的文章。

  • as a parallel to trans racial identity

    與變性人種族身份並行的問題

  • and the conclusions it made.

    以及它所作出的結論。

  • Now the weaponization of cancel culture

    現在取消文化的武器化

  • against a myriad of others seems like a no-brainer.

    對付無數的人來說,似乎是不費吹灰之力。

  • But the second, and I think more harmful effect is

    但第二種,也是我認為更有害的影響就是

  • that we weaponize it for ourselves.

    我們把它作為自己的武器。

  • We weaponize cancel cultures that we feel better

    我們武器化取消文化,我們感覺更好

  • about ourselves, because feeling angry

    因為感到憤怒

  • and feeling superior and feeling outraged

    而感到優越感和憤怒

  • feels fucking great.

    感覺他媽的偉大。

  • - But I do get a sense sometimes now

    - 但我現在有時會有一種感覺

  • among certain young people, and this is accelerated

    在某些年輕人中,這種情況會加速發生。

  • by social media, there is this sense sometimes

    由社交媒體,有這種感覺有時

  • of the way of me making change is to be as judgmental

    我改變的方式是判斷的方式

  • as possible about other people.

    儘可能的瞭解其他人。

  • And that's enough.

    這就夠了。

  • Like if I tweet or hashtag

    比如說,如果我在推特上或標籤上

  • about how you didn't do something right

    抱怨自己做得不對

  • or use the word wrong verb

    錯別字

  • or then I can sit back and feel pretty good about myself.

    或者說我可以坐下來,自我感覺良好。

  • 'Cause man, you see how woke I was?

    因為男人,你看我有多醒?

  • I called you out

    我叫你出來

  • - Yeah. Calling someone out makes us feel real good.

    - 是啊,叫人出來,讓我們感覺很好。罵人讓我們感覺很好。

  • It automatically places us above the person who did wrong.

    它自動將我們置於做錯事的人之上。

  • The problem is, we forget

    問題是,我們忘記了

  • that we do wrong shit all the time.

    我們做錯了狗屎所有的時間。

  • - This idea of purity and you're never compromised

    - 這種純潔的想法,你永遠不會妥協。

  • and you're always politically woke

    而你總是政治上的清醒

  • and all that stuff you should get over that quickly.

    和所有的東西,你應該很快就能克服。

  • (audience laughing) The world is messy.

    (觀眾笑)這個世界很亂。

  • There are ambiguities,

    有含糊不清的地方。

  • people who do really good stuff have flaws.

    好事不出門,壞事傳千里

  • - There's a wonderful book it's called

    - 有一本很好的書,叫做

  • "So You've Been Publicly Shamed" by Jon Ronson

    Jon Ronson的 "所以你被公開羞辱了"。

  • and it examines the Twitter outrage mob

    它研究了Twitter的憤怒暴徒。

  • and the real life effects that this digital judge

    和現實生活中的效果,這種數字法官

  • jury and executioner have had.

    陪審團和劊子手都有。

  • Some of my favorite standout quotes are,

    我最喜歡的一些突出語錄是:

  • "The snowflake never needs to feel responsible

    "雪花永遠不需要覺得自己有責任

  • for the avalanche."

    為雪崩。"

  • And, "We were creating a world where the smartest way

    而且,"我們正在創造一個世界,在這個世界裡,最聰明的方式是什麼?

  • to survive is to be bland".

    生存就是平淡"。

  • Cancel culture in its most extreme form

    以最極端的形式取消文化

  • often forgets that we judge an entire person based

    往往忘記了我們對一個人的判斷是基於

  • on one moment in time, out of context

    斷章取義

  • of actually knowing that individual's background,

    的實際瞭解該人的背景。

  • exposure, upbringing, and growth.

    接觸、教養和成長。

  • And if cancel culture's goal is to make people more aware

    而如果取消文化的目標是讓人們更加了解

  • of their harmful behaviors.

    的有害行為。

  • Yeah. It's succeeding.

    是的,它成功了

  • But if its ultimate goal is

    但如果其最終目標是

  • for those harmful behaviors to be adjusted

    為調整這些有害行為

  • so that people can move forward

    以使人們能夠向前邁進

  • in their lives and integrate that awareness and get rid

    在他們的生活中,並將這種意識融入到他們的生活中,並擺脫他們的生活。

  • of that problematic behavior, then it's fucking failing.

    的問題行為,那就他媽的失敗了。

  • I think Sarah Silverman put it the most eloquently

    我覺得莎拉-西爾弗曼說得最精闢。

  • on an episode of her podcast.

    在她的一集播客中。

  • - Christian Picciolini my friend,

    - Christian Picciolini 我的朋友