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♪♪♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY!
嘿,大家好!
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WE'RE BACK WITH THE AUTHOR OF "HOW TO AVOID A CLIMATE
我們又回到了 "如何避免氣候變暖 "的作者身邊。
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DISASTER," BILL GATES.
災難,"比爾-蓋茨。
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GOVERNOR ABBOTT DOWN IN TEXAS SAYS THEIR PROBLEM WAS GREEN
德州州長阿博特說他們的問題是綠色的。
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ENERGY DOWN IN TEXAS.
能源在德克薩斯。
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THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T HAVE POWER, SO THE WATER SYSTEM SHUT
這就是為什麼他們沒有電力,所以水系統關閉了。
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DOWN AND THE HEATERS SHUT DOWN AND THE PIPES BURST.
暖氣片關閉,管道爆裂。
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WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO BLAME GREEN ENERGY
你對那些想責備綠色能源的人有什麼反應?
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FOR THERE LATEST CRISIS?
對於那裡最新的危機?
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>> WELL, THE PROBLEM WAS THEY DIDN'T WEATHERIZE ANY OF THEIR
>> 問題是他們沒有把他們的任何一個人的天氣化。
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POWER SOURCES, SO NATURAL GAS SHUT DOWN, AND THAT WAS THE
動力源,所以天然氣關閉,這就是所謂的
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BIGGEST THING.
最大的事情。
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THE WIND SHUTTING DOWN WAS A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE, AND THAT
風的關閉是一個很小的百分比,而這一點。
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WAS JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T WEATHERIZED IT.
只是因為他們還沒有風化它。
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EVEN NORTH DAKOTA HAS WIND THAT WORKS AT COLD TEMPERATURES.
甚至北達科他州也有在寒冷溫度下工作的風。
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THERE ARE TWO REALLY VALID POINTS HERE, THOUGH, WHICH IS
這裡有兩個真正有效的點,但,這是
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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF THESE CRAZY WEATHER EVENTS, EVEN
我們將有更多的這些瘋狂的天氣事件,甚至是。
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COLD ONES LIKE THAT, BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, AND, AS WE MAKE
寒冷的人喜歡這樣,因為氣候的變化,並且,我們使
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THE GRID CLEAN, IT IS -- IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE TO KEEP IT
電網清潔,它是 - 這將是一個挑戰,以保持它。
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RELIABLE BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE LOTS OF CASES WHERE THERE'S NOT
可靠性,因為你可以有很多案例,而這些案例並不可靠。
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MUCH SUN OR WIND, SO WE HAVE TO INNOVATE TO BE ABLE TO STORE
太多的陽光或風,所以我們必須創新,以便能夠儲存。
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ENERGY OR USE A WEATHER-INDEPENDENT GREEN SOURCE
能源或使用不受天氣影響的綠色能源。
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LIKE NUCLEAR.
像核彈。
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>> Stephen: OKAY.
>> 史蒂芬:好的。
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WELL, I MEAN, PEOPLE LOOK AT NUCLEAR A LITTLE ASKANCE, AND
嗯,我的意思是,人們看著核電 有點疑問,和。
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I'M SURE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY.
我想你一定能明白為什麼。
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THERE HAVE BEEN NUCLEAR ACCIDENTS.
已經發生了核事故。
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I'M NOT SURE IF YOU SAW H.B.O.'S SHEERS CHERNOBYL, BUT IT WAS A
我不知道你是否看到了H. B. O. 的SHEERS CHERNOBYL,但它是一個
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BIT CHILLING, ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THERE WOULD BE A
有點令人心寒,關於可能會有一個
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LARGE HUNK OF EASTERN EUROPE WOULD NOT BE INHABITABLE FOR
東歐的大塊頭們不會無法居住在這裡。
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SEVERAL THOUSAND YEARS.
幾千年來。
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IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO NUCLEAR POWER SAFELY?
是否可以安全地使用核動力?
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>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> 當然。
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WE NEED A NEW DESIGN.
我們需要一個新的設計。
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THE RECORD, DESPITE CHERNOBYL, DESPITE WHAT COAL HAS DONE TO
記錄,儘管有碳化硅,儘管有煤,儘管有煤所做的一切。
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PEOPLE'S HEALTH AND COAL MINUS AND NATURAL GAS PIPELINES
人民健康與煤減量和天然氣管道項目
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BLOWING UP, IT'S QUITE GOOD, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
爆炸了,這是很好的,但它不是好的不夠。
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SO WE NEED TO START FROM SCRATCH AND HAVE A REACTOR THAT THE
所以,我們需要從零開始,並有一個反應器,這將是一個很好的選擇。
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OPERATES CAN NEVER MESS UP, THAT NO MATTER WHAT, THE RADIOACTIVE
運營商永遠不會出錯,無論如何,無線電活動的。
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STUFF STAYS ON SITE, AND I'M INVOLVED IN A COMPANY THAT JUST
東西留在現場,我參與了一個公司,只是。
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GOT A U.S. GOVERNMENT CONTRACT TO PROVE THAT THERE'S THIS NEW
有一個美國政府的合同,以證明有這個新的。
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SUPER SAFE GENERATION.
超級安全的一代。
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>> Stephen: UM, NOT TO PUSH BACK AGAINST SOMEONE WHO KNOWS
>> 史蒂芬:嗯,不是要推倒一個知道的人。
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MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO, BUT ISN'T THE DANGER WITH NUCLEAR
這比我做的更多,但不是與核電的危險。
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REACTORS NOT SO MUCH THAT OTHER FORMS OF ENERGY DON'T KILL
反應器不是那麼多,其他形式的能源不殺。
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PEOPLE IN THE LONG RUN, BUT THAT A LARGE CHUNK OF THE PLANET
從長遠來看,人們,但地球上的一大塊
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DOESN'T BECOME UNINHABITABLE AS A RESULT OF AN ACCIDENT WHEN
在以下情況下,不會因事故而變得無法居住。
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NUCLEAR RADIATION IS SPREAD LIKE A POISONOUS SAUCE OVER UKRAINE?
核輻射像有毒的醬汁一樣在烏克蘭蔓延?
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>> NO, THE CHERNOBYL WAS A HUGE DISASTER, AND, YOU KNOW, THE
>> 不,切爾諾貝利是一個巨大的災難,而且,你知道,該
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RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL SPREAD OUT OF THE REACTOR, AND, YOU KNOW,
放射性物質從反應器中擴散出來,而且,你知道:
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PEOPLE HAD TO LEAVE THAT AREA.
人們不得不離開那個地區。
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AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE STUFF IN THE REACTOR.
而且,你知道,你必須把這些東西留在反應器裡。
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IT IS, YOU KNOW -- IT -- THE HISTORY IS CLEAR, BUT, GOING
它是,你知道... ... 它... ... 歷史是清晰的,但是,去了。
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FORWARD, PEOPLE SHOULD JUST HAVE AN OPEN MIND BECAUSE YOU WANT A
前進,人們應該有一個開放的心態,因為你想要一個。
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GREEN SOURCE OF ENERGY THAT'S NOT WEATHER DEPENDENT, AND
不依賴氣候的綠色能源,而且
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NUCLEAR IS THE ONLY THING THAT HAS A CHANCE OF SCALING THAT
核能是唯一有機會升級的東西。
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WELL, AND, YOU KNOW, I'M AMAZED AT THE BRILLIANT THINGS PEOPLE
你知道嗎,我很驚訝於人們的妙趣橫生。
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HAVE COME UP WITH TO BE ABLE TO GUARANTEE THIS, AND NOW WE CAN
我們已經想出了能夠保證這一點,現在我們可以
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SIMULATE ALL THE BAD THINGS THAT MGHT HAPPEN TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
模擬所有可能發生的壞事,以確保我們是。
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ROBUST.
堅固的。
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>> Stephen: AT 65 YEARS OLD, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO
>> 史蒂芬: 65歲了,你有什麼想說的嗎?
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SAY TO THIS GUY FROM 37 YEARS AGO?
對37年前的這個傢伙說?
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YOU SEE THIS FELLOW RIGHT HERE?
你看到這個朋友在這裡?
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>> YEAH, HE WAS A MAD MAN.
>> 是的,他是個瘋子。
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HE WORKED ALL THE TIME.
他一直在工作。
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HE DIDN'T THINK OLD PEOPLE HAD ANY GOOD IDEAS, SO I WOULD TELL
他不認為老年人有什麼好的想法,所以我就告訴他。
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THEM TO MELLOW ON THAT ONE.
他們要在那一個上融化。
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( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: ARE THERE ANY
(笑) >> 史蒂芬:有什麼人嗎?
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THINGS YOU WOULD SAY LIKE, DON'T DO THAT, DON'T PURSUE THAT
你想說的是,不要這樣做,不要追求這樣做
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PROJECT?
項目?
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IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD WAVE HIM OFF.
你有什麼東西可以讓他離開嗎?
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>> BE NICE TO THE GOVERNMENT.
>> 對政府好一點。
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>> Stephen: BE NICE TO THE GOVERNMENT?
>> 史蒂芬:對政府好一點?
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WHY?
為什麼?
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WAS THIS GUY JUST A LITTLE CREEP TO THE GOVERNMENT?
這傢伙對政府來說只是個小爬蟲嗎?
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>> NO, NO, HE EVENTUALLY GOT INTO AN ANTITRUST TRIAL.
>> 不,不,他最終還是進入了反壟斷審判。
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>> Stephen: OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
>> 史蒂芬:哦,沒錯。
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THAT'S RIGHT.
這是正確的。
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AND WAS HE RIGHT OR WRONG FOR DEFENDING HIS ACTIONS?
他為自己的行為辯護是對是錯?
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>> UH, I'M TOO BIASED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
>> 呃,我太偏向於回答這個問題。
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>> Stephen: YOU'RE IMMINENTLY FAIR TO YOURSELF.
>> 史蒂芬:你對自己很公平。
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( LAUGHTER ) WELL, BILL, THANK YOU SO MUCH
(笑)好了,比爾,謝謝你這麼多。
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FOR BEING HERE.
因為在這裡。
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>> WELL, THANKS.
>> 好了,謝謝。
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GREAT TO TALK TO YOU.
很高興與你交談。
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>> Stephen: I WAS WAITING FOR A THANKS BACK.
>> 斯蒂芬:我正在等著你的回信。
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THAT'S ALL.
這就是全部。
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CAN'T BELIEVE HOW HARD I HAD TO FISH FOR THAT ONE.
真不敢相信我為了那條魚有多辛苦。
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( LAUGHTER ) HOW DO AVOID A CLIMATE DISASTER
如何避免氣候災難?
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IS AVAILABLE NOW.
現在可以使用。
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BILL GATES, EVERYBODY.
比爾-蓋茨,每個人。
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WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A PERFORMANCE BY "TUNE-YARDS."
我們馬上回來,"TUNE -YARDS "的表演。
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