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  • He's in the category of very good.

    他是屬於非常優秀的一類。

  • Um, not great.

    嗯,不是很好。

  • Um, at least his resume is not great.

    嗯,至少他的履歷不是很好。

  • Philip Rivers, to me, is not a Hall of Famer.

    菲利普-裡弗斯,對我來說,不是名人堂成員。

  • I say that respectfully, because I'm very fond of him.

    我這麼說是恭敬的,因為我很喜歡他。

  • Um, and I appreciate the career that he's had you throw for over 63,000 yards.

    嗯,我很欣賞他的職業生涯,你投了63000多碼。

  • We're gonna give you the respect that it's due.

    我們會給你應有的尊重。

  • You barely have a 2 to 1 touchdown.

    你幾乎沒有2比1的觸地得分。

  • The turnover, it to interception ratio.

    的成交量,它與攔截比。

  • I think it's like, What is it?

    我覺得這就像,這是什麼?

  • 421 touchdowns, 209 interceptions.

    421次觸球,209次攔截。

  • You completed about 65% of your your career passes 64.9, to be exact.

    準確地說,你完成了你職業生涯中約65%的傳球64.9,。

  • Um, you've quarterback in the National Football League for 17 years.

    你在國家橄欖球聯盟當了17年的四分衛

  • You made the playoffs seven times, all right?

    你進了七次季後賽,好嗎?

  • And you never went to a Super Bowl.

    而且你從來沒有去過超級碗。

  • That is not Hall of Fame.

    這不是名人堂。

  • We slice it any way we want to.

    我們想怎麼切就怎麼切。

  • That is not Hall of Fame on.

    這不是名人堂上。

  • And if there's anybody with a comparable resume, this in the Hall of Fame, you are doing a disservice to those who are in the Hall of Fame Already.

    如果有誰的履歷可以與之媲美,這在名人堂裡,你對那些已經進入名人堂的人是一種傷害。

  • We're obviously more lofty are much more lofty.

    我們顯然是更加高大上的都高大上了。

  • Resume uh, championships matter.

    履歷呃,冠軍很重要。

  • Appearances in championship games matter.

    冠軍賽的出場率很重要。

  • Continuity in postseason play matters.

    季後賽的連續性很重要。

  • All of those things lend itself towards validated again.

    這些東西都適合再次驗證。

  • You don't have toe win the championship, but all of those things validate the combination of all of those things when I'm able to look at your TV, the interception ratio, when I'm able to look at you being out of the playoffs more than you were in the playoffs, when I'm able to look at the fact that you've never won a championship, nor have you ever competed in the championship game, it's hard for me for you to have a resume that's absent all those things and then to say, You're a Hall of Famer.

    你不必趾以贏得總冠軍,但當我能夠看你的電視,攔截率,當我能夠看你在季後賽中比你在季後賽中更多地出局時,所有這些事情都驗證了所有這些事情的組合。當我能夠看到的事實 你從來沒有贏得過冠軍, 也沒有你曾經競爭 在總決賽中,它是很難讓我為你有一個履歷 這是缺席所有這些事情,然後說, 你是一個名人堂成員。

  • When I'm looking at most Hall of Famers and they don't have that problem, I can't do that.

    當我看著大多數名人堂的人,他們沒有這個問題,我做不到。

  • I respect the hell out of Philip Rivers.

    我很尊敬菲利普-裡弗斯

  • Um, his knowledge of the game is not to be questioned.

    嗯,他對遊戲的瞭解是不容置疑的。

  • Some of the great moments he produces, not to be questioned.

    他製造的一些精彩瞬間,不容置疑。

  • I mean, no disrespect, but that resume, you said, not a Hall of Fame resume.

    我的意思是,沒有不敬,但你說的履歷,不是名人堂的履歷。

  • Very good.

    非常好

  • What do you say?

    你說什麼?

  • He's in the hall of very good, I agree, and the tough thing is, and I think he might actually eventually get in normally.

    他是在非常好的殿堂裡,我同意,困難的是,我認為他最終可能真的會正常進入。

  • What you said would keep him out.

    你說的會把他擋在外面。

  • But because he came from the same draft classes Eli and Roethlisberger on Roethlisberger's a Hall of Famer, I think we all agree he's going to get in and easily because of his play in the playoffs is gonna.

    但因為他來自同一個選秀班Eli和Roethlisberger上Roethlisberger的名人堂,我想我們都同意他將進入和輕鬆,因為他在季後賽中的表現是要。

  • He won two Super Bowls and on the road, beat Far and Rogers at Lambeau in two different seasons and Tom Brady and the Super Bowl.

    他贏得了兩個超級碗和客場,在兩個不同的賽季在蘭博擊敗了遠和羅傑斯,以及湯姆布雷迪和超級碗。

  • And he's one of the most clutch players in the history of American team sports.

    而他也是美國團隊運動史上最有影響力的球員之一。

  • When you look at how he's gonna probably get in also, and I think when people look at it and say I remember Rivers and Eli and Rivers was maybe a little better than Eli.

    當你看他怎麼可能也會進去,我想當人們看了之後,說我記得裡弗斯和伊萊,裡弗斯也許比伊萊好一點。

  • Normally I think he'll eventually get in, but I agree gets into and also he had an Iron Man streak like Eli for a long time and he was a team guy in a tough guy.

    通常情況下,我認為他最終會進入,但我同意進入,而且他也像伊萊一樣有很長一段時間的鐵人特質,他是一個團隊中的硬漢。

  • But I agree he shouldn't get in number one.

    但我同意他不應該進入第一。

  • The numbers that he put up, which were excellent, I was rooting for him and I always thought he would win a Super Bowl.

    他打出的數據,非常出色,我是支持他的,我一直認為他能贏得超級碗。

  • He was playing in a North Turner offense a lot of the time compared to say someone like Eli was playing in a windy situation where the offense was much simpler and more quarterback friendly, and he had less responsibility in that offense than, say, Eli.

    他很多時候都是在北特納的進攻中打球,相比之下,比如說像伊萊這樣的人是在風聲鶴唳的情況下打球,而在這種進攻中,他的進攻要簡單得多,對四分衛也更友好,他在這種進攻中的責任要比比如說伊萊少。

  • And the reason I bring it up, Eli knocks him a Giants fan.

    我之所以提出來,是因為Eli把他打成了巨人隊的球迷。

  • But because we all agree on Roethlisberger, he's getting in.

    但因為我們都同意羅斯伯格的觀點,所以他要進去了。

  • So Rivers stats maybe look a little bit better than they should.

    所以裡弗斯的數據也許看起來比他們應該的好一點。

  • In fact, that is Stephen A.

    其實,這就是斯蒂芬-A。

  • Points out, They don't look.

    點出,他們不看。

  • Oh my God, all world incredible.

    哦,我的天,全世界都不可思議。

  • And then he was on enough good teams where special quarterback play maybe at least gets you to a Super Bowl.

    然後他在足夠好的球隊裡,特別四分衛的表現也許至少能讓你進入超級碗。

  • And too often he didn't come through with good enough play, and a couple of times you could point to and say, Rivers really should have played better in that game.

    而且很多時候他沒有拿出足夠好的表現,有幾次你可以指著說,裡弗斯在那場比賽中真的應該打得更好。

  • I think what it adds up to is because of the quarterback class he was in and how he compares to those guys.

    我覺得加起來就是因為他所在的四分衛班,以及他和那些人的比較。

  • Eventually he'll get in, but it pains me to say cause I always rooted for him.

    他最終會被錄取,但我很痛苦,因為我一直支持他。

  • I wouldn't vote for him.

    我不會投票給他。

  • Do you realize that Philip Rivers never missed a game in his career.

    你知道菲利普-裡弗斯職業生涯中從未缺席過一場比賽嗎?

  • I'm just looking at his numbers every year since 2000 and six.

    我只是看了他2000年以來每年的數據,六。

  • He got drafted in 2000 and four.

    他在2000年被選中,四。

  • Of course, 2000 and six.

    當然,2000年和6。

  • He became a starter.

    他成了主力隊員。

  • He played all 16 games for the last 14 years.

    過去14年,他打滿了16場比賽。

  • I mean, that's got to count for something.

    我的意思是,這必須計算的東西。

  • When we talk about the situation in our earlier debate, he wasn't necessarily in the best situation.

    我們剛才辯論的時候說到情況,他的情況不一定是最好的。

  • When it counts to give him respect, it does not make a call to the Hall.

    關鍵時候要給他尊重,不給堂上打電話。

  • I think Roethlisberger like, kind of drag him in.

    我認為羅斯伯格喜歡, 樣的拖他。

  • I think they drag him out because he doesn't even think.

    我覺得他們把他拖出來是因為他根本不思考。

  • Eli, I'm Yeah, well, I should be in.

    伊萊,我是啊,我應該在。

He's in the category of very good.

他是屬於非常優秀的一類。

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