They are the Oscar-winning director and the star

他們是奧斯卡獎的導演和明星

of the very entertaining limited series "Pretend It's a City,"

"假裝是一座城市 "的娛樂性限定系列，

which is streaming now on Netflix.

這是流現在在Netflix。

Here are Martin Scorsese and Fran Lebowitz.

這是馬丁-斯科塞斯和弗蘭-勒布維茨。

Ah, it's so great to see you both here.

啊，很高興在這裡看到你們兩個。

Thank you so much for doing this.

非常感謝你做的這些。

-Great to see you. -You're welcome.

-很高興見到你-不客氣

-How are you on Zoom? How is this possible?

-你怎麼會在Zoom上？這怎麼可能？

-Are you talking to me? -Yes.

-你在跟我說話嗎？-你是在跟我說話嗎？

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

-I am at a Netflix office.

-我在Netflix的辦公室裡。

Numerous people set this up.

眾多人設置了這個。

There's many machines here.

這裡有很多機器。

There are people, as far as I can tell,

據我所知，有的人。

all around the country... -Yes.

全國各地的...-是的

-...making this possible. -They really are.

-...讓這一切成為可能.-他們真的是

-And yet, it's not as good as being in person.

-然而，這還不如親臨現場。

-That's right, yeah, yeah.

-是的，是的，是的。

-Even with all this technology.

-即使有了這些技術。

-I'm so happy though that you're doing this.

-我很高興你能這樣做。

This is amazing.

這是驚人的。

Martin, this is your second documentary of sorts with Fran.

馬丁，這是你和弗蘭的第二部紀錄片。

Why did you decide to make this series?

你為什麼決定做這個系列？

-You know, we did "Public Speaking."

-你知道，我們做了 "公開演講"。

I think it's about 10 years ago,

我想這是10年前的事了。

and I didn't know what kind of film it should be.

而我卻不知道這應該是一部什麼樣的電影。

And I was forming it and the editing and kept shooting,

而我在形成它和編輯，並繼續拍攝。

and, as we developed the picture, I think it took

而且，當我們開發的圖片，我認為它採取了。

about a year, year and a half in the cutting,

大約一年半的時間，一年半的時間在切割。

maybe a little more.

也許更多一點。

I don't know. I just sensed --

我不知道，我只是感覺到...我只是感覺到...

For me, there was a sense of freedom in style,

對我來說，有一種風格自由的感覺。

making a film, the structure of a film.

製作一部電影，電影的結構。

Eventually, we kind of came upon the idea that it would be great.

最後，我們算是想到了，這將是偉大的。

It was like a commentary of our culture.

這就像是對我們文化的評論。

Almost like a -- as if Fran,

幾乎就像一個 - 彷彿弗蘭。

instead of reading a column in a magazine,

而不是看雜誌上的專欄。

Fran passes by your house and just says things.

弗蘭經過你家，只是說了一些話。

-[ Laughs ] -You know?

-你知道嗎？

Goes by your apartment, knocks on the door,

經過你的公寓，敲門。

and she says, "You know, these people down the hall."

她說，"你知道，這些人在大廳裡。"

Whatever. I mean, it's a necessary thing.

隨便吧我的意思是，這是一個必要的事情。

-Yeah. -She doesn't dr-- She doesn't go

-是的 她不喝...

in taxis, or, you know, so she's always in the streets,

在計程車上，或者，你知道， 所以她總是在街上。

always commenting on things, and some of it, you know,

總是評論的東西，和一些它，你知道。

you may not agree with everything, but what I love is,

你可能不同意所有的東西，但我喜歡的是，

is the sense of it.

是它的意義。

The common sense of it, more than common sense.

其中的常識，更是常識。

And, so for me, why not keep that commentary going?

所以，對我來說，為什麼不把這種評論繼續下去呢？

-Yeah, I think people want to see this

-是的，我想人們想看這個。

'cause I also want to just go up to Fran and be like,

"因為我也想只是去弗蘭和喜歡，

"Fran, what do you think of this or what is that?"

"弗蘭，你覺得這或者那是什麼？"

Just watching this, it's so -- I just love you so much.

只是看著這個，它是如此 - 我只是愛你這麼多。

You know that, but you almost get hit by a car

你知道的，但你差點被車撞了。

maybe four times in the first episode,

也許四次在第一集。

because you're the only one paying attention.

因為你是唯一一個關注的人。

-That is correct.

-沒錯

That's why I almost get hit by a car

所以我才會差點被車撞到呢

instead of getting hit by a car. -Yeah.

而不是被車撞了。-是的

-And if you wanted someone to knock on your door, me, Jimmy,

-如果你想找人敲你的門，那就找我吧，吉米

just as your neighbor, that could have happened.

就像你的鄰居一樣，這可能會發生。

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

-I did not take your apartment. That is --

-我沒有拿你的公寓。那是...

-You took my apartment. -I didn't really.

-你拿走了我的公寓.-我真的沒有

-That could've been my apartment, and you could've

-那可能是我的公寓，而你可能已經

just come upstairs, knocked on the door.

剛上樓，敲了敲門。

-I didn't know it was you I was outbidding.

-我不知道我出的是你的價。

-Unfortunately, when you go upstairs,

-不幸的是，當你上樓的時候。

it's still your apartment.

它仍然是你的公寓。

-I didn't know it was you I was outbidding!

-我不知道我出的是你的價!

I was just talking about -- I didn't know it was you.

我只是在說... 我不知道是你。

If I knew it was you, I would have --

如果我知道是你，我就會...

-It didn't take much to outbid me, believe me.

-相信我，出價比我高不需要太多。

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

-I wanted to ask 'cause I can just imagine what this was like.

-我想問，因為我可以想象這是什麼樣子的。

But there was a lot of -- there's just some beautiful

但也有很多... ... 只是有一些美麗的。

scenes shot around this, like, model of Manhattan

圍繞這個曼哈頓模型拍攝的場景

that I'd never seen before.

我從未見過的。

It's gorgeous, but it was filmed in Queens at the Queens Museum.

很華麗，但它是在皇后區的皇后區博物館拍攝的。

I've never even seen it before.

我甚至從來沒有見過它。

Fran, I know you prefer to stay in Manhattan.

弗蘭，我知道你更喜歡呆在曼哈頓。

How did you feel about filming in Queens?

你對在皇后區拍攝有什麼感覺？

-Well, it's, by the way, a model

-順便說一句，這是一個模型。

of all of New York City, not just Manhattan.

不僅僅是曼哈頓，而是整個紐約市的。

And so it is in Queens.

皇后區的情況也是如此。

I didn't even know about this thing.

我都不知道有這個東西。

A friend of mine had gone recently, a few years ago.

我的一個朋友最近走了，幾年前。

He told me about it, so we went and looked at it, and I thought,

他告訴了我，所以我們去看了看，我想。

"This is a great thing for 'Pretend It's a City.'

"這對'假裝是一座城'來說，是件好事。

It's a perfect thing."

這是一個完美的事情。"

I cannot stress enough how people should go and see this.

我無法強調人們應該如何去看這個。

This is a wonderful, spectacular thing built by Robert Moses,

這是由羅伯特-摩西建造的一個奇妙、壯觀的東西。

who we all hate,

我們都恨誰。

because everything else he did was not miniature,

因為他所做的其他事情都不是微型的。

but in miniature, the guy was perfect.

但在迷你版中，這個傢伙是完美的。

-[ Laughing ]

-[笑]

-It's funny, because when she'd suggested it, I said, "Where?"

-很有趣，因為當她建議時，我說："在哪裡？"

And I said, "No, we have all this stuff at The Players Club.

我說："不，這些東西都在 "玩傢俱樂部"。

We got the stuff in the street. What does she want?

我們在街上買的東西。她想要什麼？

A model in Queens?"

皇后區的模特？"

Look, I was born in Queens, Flushing, so, I mean, okay.

你看，我出生在皇后區，法拉盛，所以，我的意思是，好吧。

But now, why -- do you know what it takes to get there?

但現在，為什麼... ... 你知道要怎麼做才能達到目的嗎？

-Yeah, Marty was --

-對，馬蒂是...

You know, Marty acted like we were going to Afghanistan.

你知道嗎，馬蒂表現得好像我們要去阿富汗一樣。

-No, seriously. -He's asking, "Where is it?

-不，說真的-他在問，"在哪裡？

How do we get there?" I said, "Marty, it's in Queens."

我們怎麼去那裡？"我說，"馬蒂，它在皇后區。"

"It's far, right?" I said, "It's pretty far."

"很遠吧？"我說："挺遠的。"

"Um, how do we get there?"

"嗯，我們怎麼去？"

As if we were going in a caravan of camels

就像我們坐著駱駝的大篷車去一樣。

or we had to, like, row a little boat to get there.

或者我們不得不一樣，划著小船去那裡。

It is a little hard to get there, that is true,

要達到這個目的有點難，這是事實。

which is probably why fewer people

這可能就是為什麼少人

see this model than should. -Yeah, it's beautiful.

看到這個模型比應該。-是的，它的美麗。

-But it is worth the trip.

-但這是值得一去的地方

-Really is worth it,

-真的是值得的。

except for when you tripped over the bridge.

除了當你絆倒在橋上。

-I knocked over the Queensboro Bridge,

-我撞倒了皇后區大橋。

and the guy who was in charge of this model,

以及負責這個模型的人。

who was one of the most anxious people I've ever met in my life,

他是我這輩子見過的最焦慮的人之一。

because they never let anyone film in there.

因為他們從來沒有讓任何人在那裡拍攝。

-He was very nice. Yeah. -He was very nice.

-他人很好是啊 他人很好

But he was very worried, and Marty, of course, came with

但他非常擔心，而馬蒂，當然也來了。

like 3,000 cameras, you know, and 4 million lights

像3000個攝像頭，你知道，和400萬盞燈

and it took them the whole day to set the shot up.

他們花了整整一天的時間來佈置鏡頭。

And then I asked the guy,

然後我問那個人。

'cause he said I had to wear these little booties, you know.

因為他說我必須穿這些小靴子，你知道的。

I said, "I would really rather not wear them.

我說："我真的寧願不穿。

I would prefer not to.

我寧願不要。

I'll just wear my boots."

我就穿我的靴子。"

"No, you're not wearing your boots."

"不，你沒穿靴子。"

"I'll wear just my socks."

"我只穿我的襪子。"

So he kind of said yes.

所以他算是答應了。

I, like, put one sock on the thing.

我一樣，把一個襪子的事情。

He had a nervous breakdown. -[ Laughs ]

他有一個神經衰弱。-[笑]

-He said, "No, you have to put these boots on."

-他說，"不，你必須穿上這雙靴子"

So I put them on.

所以我就把它們戴上了。

But I kept saying, "Don't worry.

但我一直說："別擔心。

I'm a very careful person." -Oh, my.

我是一個非常謹慎的人。"-哦，天哪。

-And then I knocked over the Queensboro Bridge.

-然後我撞上了皇后區大橋。

-I think I did see your sock there.

-我想我確實看到你的襪子了.

-The next thing I wanted to do, Jim,

-接下來我想做的事情，吉姆。

was to get the Godzilla suit for her.

是要給她買哥斯拉套裝。

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

-Just taking over New York. Oh, my gosh.

-剛剛接管紐約。哦，我的天哪

I loved it. It is unbelievable.

我喜歡它。它是不可思議的。

I recommend it, highly recommend it to everyone watching.

我推薦，強烈推薦給大家看。

I want to show everyone a clip from the series.

我想給大家看一個系列的片段。

Here are Martin Scorsese and Fran Lebowitz

這是馬丁-斯科塞斯和弗蘭-勒布維茨的作品。

in "Pretend It's a City." Take a look.

在 "假裝是一座城"。看看吧

-How did you two meet?

-你們倆是怎麼認識的？

-Oh, how did we meet?

-哦，我們怎麼認識的？

-Do you want to tell her? -Do we know?

-你想告訴她嗎？-我們知道嗎？

-No. -No.

-不 不

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

People have often asked me how did I meet Marty,

經常有人問我怎麼認識馬蒂的。

and I don't know, and so I'm assuming I met him at a party.

我不知道，所以我假設我是在一個聚會上認識他的。

And why do I think that?

我為什麼會這麼想呢？

Because I go to a lot of parties.

因為我參加過很多聚會

-John Waters' 50th birthday party?

約翰-沃特斯的50歲生日聚會？

-No, I already knew you then.

-不，我那時已經認識你了.

-No, you knew before, yeah.

-不，你之前就知道了，是的

-I do know that, you know, I knew Marty for a long time,

-我知道，你知道，我認識馬蒂很久了。

before I knew him well, you know, because I go to

在我認識他之前，你知道，因為我去了

a lot more parties than Marty,

比馬蒂多了很多聚會。

which is, you know, why Marty's made a lot of movies

這就是為什麼馬蒂拍了很多電影的原因

and I haven't written a lot of books.

我也沒寫多少書。

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

-That's the perfect clip to show.

-這是最完美的片段。

I'm glad it's both of your favorites. Unbelievable.

我很高興這兩個都是你的最愛。難以置信

Fran Lebowitz and Martin Scorsese, everybody.

弗蘭-勒布維茨和馬丁-斯科塞斯，各位。

Their limited series "Pretend It's a City"

他們的限定系列 "假裝是一座城市"

is streaming now on Netflix.

正在Netflix上流傳。

Watch it right now.

現在就看吧。

More "Tonight Show" after the break.

更多的 "今夜秀 "後休息。

Thank you so much, everybody.

非常感謝大家。