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  • do you feel like Nagy just messed up the whole bear situation?

    你覺得納吉把整個熊的情況搞得一團糟嗎?

  • I think it did.

    我想是的

  • I've been consistent with this.

    我一直都是這樣的。

  • I'm not questioning that.

    我不是在質疑這一點。

  • Nick Foles has some skills.

    尼克-福爾斯有一些技能。

  • Obviously, he's incredibly popular with the players.

    很明顯,他在玩家中的人氣非常高。

  • You could see the affection that they have for him when he was carted off the field last night.

    昨晚他被抬出場時,你可以看到他們對他的感情。

  • Um, he's obviously a Super Bowl champion.

    嗯,他顯然是一個超級碗冠軍。

  • And a two year run in Philadelphia, where he subbed for Carson, went to, went down to deliver the Super Bowl and then followed up when Carson wins.

    而在費城的兩年時間裡,他為卡森打替補,去,下去送超級碗,然後在卡森奪冠時跟進。

  • Got injured again the following year, and he won the last several games of the regular season and ultimately guided them toe a playoff victory against uh, he's a Chicago Bears before they lost the New Orleans in the divisional playoff game that year.

    第二年又受傷了,他贏得了常規賽的最後幾場比賽,並最終帶領他們在季後賽中戰勝了呃,他是芝加哥熊隊,然後他們在當年的分區季後賽中輸給了新奧爾良隊。

  • We know what Nick Foles is capable of doing, but I make the contention that with the exception of that one year Max, when he was playing under Chip Kelly, any time Nick Foles has been your guy from start to finish, he hasn't been that effective.

    我們知道尼克-福爾斯的能力,但我提出的論點是,除了那一年麥克斯,當他在奇普-凱利手下打球的時候,任何時候尼克-福爾斯從頭到尾都是你的人,他都沒有那麼有效。

  • He's been Beth at his best is when he comes in late as the season has waned to sort of save the day to some degree, and I thought that should have been the same situation here.

    他一直貝絲最好的狀態就是在賽季萎靡不振的時候,他在後期進來,算是在一定程度上挽救了局面,我想這裡應該也是這樣的情況。

  • Chicago's offensive line is not very good.

    芝加哥的進攻線不是很好。

  • We all know that we knew that from the start of this season.

    我們都知道,從這個賽季開始,我們就知道。

  • So when you consider the stationary target, that is Nick Foles.

    所以當你考慮到固定的目標,那就是尼克-福爾斯。

  • I thought it was a huge mistake to bring him in at that particular moment in time.

    我認為在那個特殊的時刻把他引進來是一個巨大的錯誤。

  • Again, I wasn't questioned whether or not he was better than Mitra Strabinsky.

    同樣,我也沒有質疑他是否比米特拉-斯特拉賓斯基好。

  • But Mitra Drobinski definitely has better wheels.

    但米特拉-德羅賓斯基的輪子肯定更好。

  • And because he has better wheels and he has ability to move on, DSO scramble and create and move the chains in that regard.

    而且因為他有更好的輪子,他有能力繼續前進,DSO在這方面的拼搶和創造以及移動鏈。

  • My attitude is you keep Mitra drobinski in for a long as you could possibly get away with it, particularly with you winning games.

    我的態度是,你讓米特拉-德羅賓斯基在你可能逃脫的情況下,特別是在你贏球的情況下,你要保持米特拉-德羅賓斯基的時間。

  • And then when you need Nick Foles to come in as the season wanes to save the day, he's capable of doing that.

    然後當你需要尼克-福爾斯在賽季即將結束的時候來拯救世界,他有能力做到這一點。

  • But the more you exposed him, an injury was inevitable.

    但你越是暴露他,受傷是必然的。

  • I said that over a month ago and sure enough, last night it happened, so all we could do is sit here, hope and pray that he's okay and that no injury is the injury is not that significant to either hip or his leg and that ultimately he'll be back.

    我一個多月前就說過了,果然,昨晚就發生了,所以我們只能坐在這裡,希望並祈禱他沒事,沒有受傷是傷勢對臀部和腿部的影響都不大,最終他會回來。

  • But it didn't look good last night, and I wish I could say I was surprised, but I wasn't.

    但昨晚看起來並不好,我希望我能說我很驚訝,但我沒有。

  • I have to give you credit.

    我得給你點贊。

  • You absolutely said exactly what you just said.

    你剛才說的絕對是一模一樣的。

  • You said, and at the time I agreed with you, ideally, ideally.

    你說,當時我也同意你的說法,理想,理想。

  • But once you make the move, you got to stay with foals.

    但一旦你行動起來,你就得和小馬駒呆在一起。

  • Here's the problem.

    問題是這樣的

  • The offensive line is awful.

    進攻線是可怕的。

  • It was not good to begin the season and then, like they lost four starters and then they lost backups so they can't even start their back up to a starter who's not that good.

    賽季開始的時候並不好,然後,就像他們失去了四名主力,然後他們失去了後備力量,所以他們甚至不能讓他們的後備力量啟動一個並不那麼好的主力球員。

  • Three offensive line is among the worst.

    三條進攻線是最差的之一。

  • You'll see.

    你會明白的

  • They cannot protect the passer they cannot block for the running backs, you know, so you can't get anything done.

    他們不能保護傳球者,他們不能阻擋跑衛,你知道,所以你什麼都做不了。

  • And Nick Foles is not the kind of guy who's gonna overcome that.

    而尼克-福爾斯不是那種能克服這個問題的人。

  • Nick Foles is the kind of guy if you put him behind a good line and he has some weapons in the defense, he needs stuff, but he will not only not stop you from winning in the in that circumstance.

    尼克-福爾斯是那種如果你把他放在一個好的線後面,他有一些武器在防守,他需要的東西,但他不僅不會阻止你在這種情況下的勝利。

  • He'll actually help you win.

    他真的會幫你贏。

  • He'll actually make clutch plays.

    他真的會打出離合戰。

  • He'll be big on third down.

    他在第三次進攻中會有很大的表現。

  • When you need him most.

    在你最需要他的時候

  • He'll be excellent in the playoffs.

    他在季後賽中會很出色。

  • That's not this Bears team, and I can't say that it's even the coach.

    這不是這支熊隊,我甚至不能說是教練。

  • I can't even blame this on Nagy.

    我甚至不能責怪納吉。

  • I have to blame this on Ryan Pace and the Bears organization, GM and the whole organization.

    我必須把這一切歸咎於瑞恩-佩斯和熊隊的組織,總經理和整個組織。

  • Guys, Do you understand the reason Nick Foles, who could be had in the middle of the sea it had for a little trade package, and you could bring him in as a backup?

    夥計們,你們明白尼克-福爾斯的原因嗎,他可以在海中它有一個小小的交易方案,你可以把他作為一個備份?

  • The reason he's even there is because they whiffed so bad on Travis Key.

    他在那裡的原因是因為他們在特拉維斯・基身上的失誤太多。

  • Think about this.

    你想想看

  • Stephen A.

    Stephen A.

  • The Bears won in 1985.

    1985年,熊隊獲得了勝利。

  • Also, they're not like the greatest quarterback.

    而且,他們也不像最偉大的四分衛。

  • Everyone's really the defense, right, But they win in 1985 maybe the greatest football team ever, certainly, on a short list, right?

    每個人都是真正的防守,對吧,但他們在1985年贏得了也許有史以來最偉大的足球隊,當然,在一個短名單上,對吧?

  • The 85 Bears.

    85年的熊。

  • It's like the 27 Yankees, you know, like we remember these kind of labeled teams because this is the standard.

    就像27支洋基隊一樣,你知道,就像我們記住了這些被貼上標籤的球隊,因為這是標準。

  • Since then, who's been their quarterback and again, not an MVP caliber guy back then, who have been there.

    從那以後,誰是他們的四分衛,再說了,當年不是MVP級別的人,誰都有。

  • Who's been their best quarterback since 1985?

    1985年以來,誰是他們最好的四分衛?

  • Maybe Jay Cutler?

    也許是傑伊-卡特勒?

  • Maybe Cutler's their best.

    也許卡特勒是他們的最佳人選

  • Is it Kyle Orton?

    是凱爾-奧頓嗎?

  • Is it Rex Grossman?

    是Rex Grossman嗎?

  • Think about this.

    你想想看

  • Chicago.

    芝加哥。

  • A town that is so crazy about football.

    一個對足球如此瘋狂的小鎮。

  • Stephen A.

    Stephen A.

  • You remember that old SNL skit, The Bears, the Bears and all that stuff that was happening in the middle of the Bulls dynasty.

    你還記得SNL的那個老短劇《熊出沒》嗎,熊出沒,還有那些發生在公牛王朝中期的事情。

  • The Chicago had Michael Jordan, the greatest and most famous athlete on the history of the planet Earth.

    芝加哥有邁克爾-喬丹,地球歷史上最偉大、最著名的運動員。

  • They were winning championships every single year.

    他們每年都在贏得冠軍。

  • And if you turned on SNL, you heard the Bears, the Bears.

    如果你打開SNL,你就會聽到熊隊,熊隊。

  • That's how football obsessed Chicago is, and the best this franchise could do in 30 five years is Jay Cutler or Kyle Orton or Rex Grossman.

    這就是芝加哥對足球的痴迷,這個特許經營權在30五年內最好的是傑伊-卡特勒或凱爾-奧頓或雷克斯-格羅斯曼。

  • They traded up.

    他們交易了。

  • They put a package together to grab true Biss Key, right?

    他們把一攬子計劃放在一起,是為了搶奪真正的比斯基吧?

  • Well, it's unfair.

    嗯,這是不公平的。

  • Drabinsky's always being compared to these better quarterbacks taken after him.

    德拉賓斯基總是被拿來和他之後的那些更好的四分衛相比。

  • It's not just him.

    不僅僅是他。

  • It's every draft.

    這是每一個草案。

  • Since 1985 they haven't had a quarterback in this town in 35 years.

    自1985年以來,他們已經35年沒有四分衛在這個鎮上了。

  • This ain't foals, and it ain't coach either.

    這不是馬駒,也不是教練。

  • This is what they're working with.

    這就是他們的工作內容。

  • They whiffed on true biscuit.

    他們聞到了真正的餅乾。

  • He was a bust, just like every quarterbacks been a bust for this team in 35 years.

    他是個失敗者,就像35年來這支球隊的每個四分衛都是失敗者一樣。

  • Your points are incredibly valid Macs, because you you're pointing to the town and the culture.

    你的觀點是非常有道理的麥克,因為你你指的是這個城市和文化。

  • And the fact of the matter is that Mr Drobinski went to a Chicago Bulls game and got unceremoniously booed because they recognized even before he had ever played the game, that he was no decision.

    而事實是,Drobinski先生去看了一場芝加哥公牛隊的比賽,卻被毫不客氣地噓了起來,因為他們甚至在他還沒有打比賽之前,就已經認識到他不是決定。

  • Watson, that he was no Patrick Mahomes.

    沃森,他不是帕特里克-馬霍姆斯。

  • And that was not the guy that they wanted him.

    而那不是他們想要的人。

  • So, from a psychological perspective, from what I've been told, that's always had an effect on him and he was hell bent on proving it.

    所以,從心理學的角度來說,據我所知,這對他一直有影響,他一心想要證明這一點。

  • And so he thought overthought, and as a result, it's compromised his productivity's.

    所以他認為想多了,結果是影響了他的生產力的。

  • We get that.

    我們明白了。

  • But here's the flip side.

    但這裡有一個反面。

  • He was three.

    他當時只有三歲

  • And over this year you bring in Nick Foles, your two and five.

    而在今年,你帶來了尼克-福爾斯,你的2和5。

  • There's something to be said about that.

    這也是有講究的。

  • I I get you with the management because the bottom line is you made the decision to move up.

    我我明白你與管理層的關係,因為底線是你做出了向上發展的決定。

  • It was your job to know better than doing that, to make sure that you got you had two other quarterbacks that end up being elite.

    這是你的工作,知道比做,以確保你得到你有兩個其他四分衛,最終成為精英。

  • Okay, one obviously more than the other in homes compared to D.

    好吧,與D相比,一個明顯比另一個在家裡多。

  • Shawn Watson.

    肖恩-沃森

  • But nevertheless they were there, and they obviously had incredible upside.

    但儘管如此,他們還是在那裡,他們顯然有著不可思議的上升空間。

  • Plus, when you consider the fact that the D Shawn Watson had won a national championship had been the back to back national championship games in two games against Alabama, the man threw for over 800 yards and you pass him up to bring some quarterback that never had had never been on that stage.

    另外,當你考慮到D肖恩-沃森曾獲得過全國冠軍的事實,曾在兩場對陣阿拉巴馬州的比賽中背靠背地獲得過全國冠軍,這個人投出了超過800碼的成績,而你卻放棄了他,讓他帶著一些從未有過的四分衛登上那個舞臺。

  • That was a mistake on the on the part of Pace, no doubt about it.

    毫無疑問,這是佩斯的一個錯誤。

  • But Nagy had Strabinsky.

    但納吉有斯特拉賓斯基。

  • He knows what he has with an offensive line.

    他知道自己有什麼進攻線。

  • Why are you putting a stationary target behind that offensive line that early in the season, when you undefeated at three and, oh, why would you do that?

    你為什麼要在賽季初就在那條進攻線後面放一個固定的目標,你在三場不敗,哦,你為什麼要這麼做?

  • And that's where I think they obviously, Nagy obviously deserves significant blame.

    而這也是我認為他們明顯的地方,納吉顯然應該受到重大的指責。

  • Thanks for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content.

    感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

do you feel like Nagy just messed up the whole bear situation?

你覺得納吉把整個熊的情況搞得一團糟嗎?

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