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  • he was the man that for 12 years as Donald Trump's attorney, was known by many pseudonyms.

    他是男人,12年作為唐納德-特朗普的律師,被許多化名所熟知。

  • Trump's Mr Fix It his consigliere e his ultra loyal right hand man, Michael Cohen, lovingly described his then boss is a Nikon who was humble, principled and kind some like in their relationship to that of a father and son until it came to an abrupt end.

    特朗普的先生修復它他的consigliere e他的超忠誠的右手,邁克爾-科恩,可愛地描述了他當時的老闆是一個尼康誰是謙虛,原則性和善良的一些喜歡在他們的關係到父子關係,直到它戛然而止。

  • Michael Cohen, the fixer, flipped.

    邁克爾-科恩,這個掮客翻臉了。

  • I played guilty in federal court two felonies for the benefit of at the direction of and in coordination with individual number one.

    我在聯邦法庭上犯了兩項重罪... ...為了一號人物的利益... ...在一號人物的指導和協調下.

  • And for the record individual number one is President Donald J.

    而記錄在案的頭號人物是唐納德-J-總統。

  • Trump.

    特朗普

  • When Cohen testified in front of the Congress House Oversight Committee, he'd already been convicted of a flurry of FBI charges on campaign financing and tax evasion, as well as perjury in a congressional testimony.

    當科恩在國會眾議院監督委員會面前作證時,他已經被FBI指控為競選融資和逃稅,以及在國會證詞中作偽證,一連串的罪名。

  • Having been intimately involved in many of Donald Trump's dealings for over a decade, he was the man who made Trump's problems go away.

    十多年來,他密切參與了唐納德-特朗普的許多交易,他是讓特朗普的問題消失的人。

  • But his cooperation with federal investigations, whether it was into hush money payments to Trump's alleged lovers, stormy Daniels on other women, the Trump Tower Moscow project, a deal Cohen claimed Trump was negotiating with Russia while running for president in 2016.

    但他與聯邦調查的合作,無論是向特朗普所謂的情人支付封口費,風暴丹尼爾斯對其他女性的調查,特朗普大廈莫斯科項目,科恩聲稱特朗普在2016年競選總統時與俄羅斯談判的交易。

  • All the hacking of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign all added up to make him one big problem for the president.

    希拉里-克林頓競選總統的所有黑客行為加起來,都讓他成為總統的一個大麻煩。

  • So what now?

    那現在怎麼辦?

  • Trump?

    特朗普?

  • Having long since cut adrift his one time protege, Cohen was released from prison in May early to serve the rest of his time under house arrest.

    由於早已與曾經的保護人斷絕關係,科恩在5月提前出獄,在軟禁中服完餘下的時間。

  • On with the release of Cohen's new tell all memoir, The relationship is in the deep freeze in the book, How in describes Trump, among other things, as a racist, a con man, a cheat on a mobster.

    在隨著科恩新的告訴回憶錄的發佈,關係處於深度凍結中,在書中,如何在描述特朗普,其中,作為一個種族主義者,一個金光黨,一個欺騙的黑幫老大。

  • In turn, Trump has branded Cohen a rat on a liar who was fake and weak.

    而特朗普則將科恩打成了金光黨身上的老鼠,他是假的、弱的。

  • But with America just under two weeks out from the polls, what more can the man tell us?

    但美國距離民調只有不到兩週的時間,這個人還能告訴我們什麼?

  • Could there be any more skeletons to come out of the presidential closet?

    會不會還有更多的骷髏要從總統的衣櫃裡出來?

  • Michael Cohen joins me now from his home, where he's under house arrest.

    邁克爾-科恩現在在他的家中和我一起,他被軟禁在那裡。

  • Michael, Good evening.

    邁克爾,晚上好

  • Good evening to you and Good evening, Thio.

    晚上好,你和晚上好,Thio。

  • All of those on the other side of the pond.

    所有在池塘另一邊的人。

  • What is the worst thing you covered up for Donald Trump?

    你為唐納德-特朗普掩蓋的最糟糕的事情是什麼?

  • Or did for him as his lawyer that you are most ashamed off.

    或者為他做了他的律師,你最慚愧的關。

  • I think it probably has to stem with the Stormy Daniels scenario in the fact that he tasked me to not only handle this matter for him, but to lie to his wife is well, which I did our first lady, Melania.

    我想這可能要源於斯托米-丹尼爾斯的情況下,他責成我不僅要為他處理這件事,而且要對他的妻子撒謊是好的,我做了我們的第一夫人梅拉尼婭。

  • And that's probably something that I I think I regret the most.

    而這可能是我我認為最遺憾的事情。

  • That hush money that you paid to her that is alleged on also led to you being where you are now under house arrest.

    你付給她的那筆封口費據說也導致了你現在被軟禁的情況。

  • Having been in prison, do you think it cut through with the American public?

    坐過牢,你覺得它能和美國民眾切磋嗎?

  • Cut through?

    切開?

  • In what respect?

    在什麼方面?

  • It didn't stop them voting for him as president, did it?

    這並沒有阻止他們投票給他當總統,不是嗎?

  • No.

    不知道

  • No, it did not.

    不,它沒有。

  • But again, all of the hush money payments came out for the most part, at the very, very end right before the election.

    但同樣,所有的封口費都是在大選前的最後一刻才出來的。

  • And, you know, you asked your correspondent there in Washington whether or not there's anything that the president can do to win this election or anything that Joe Biden could do to lose the election.

    你問你在華盛頓的記者 總統是否有什麼辦法能贏得選舉 或者喬・拜登是否有什麼辦法能輸掉選舉?

  • And the answer to that, in my opinion, is an emphatic no.

    而在我看來,答案是堅決否定的。

  • They everybody already knows who they're voting for.

    他們每個人都已經知道自己要投給誰了。

  • For the most part, I mean, short of Joe Biden having a heart attack on stage.

    大多數情況下 我是說 喬-拜登在舞臺上心臟病發作的情況還沒發生過。

  • Nothing is going to stop Joe Biden from winning.

    沒有什麼能阻止喬-拜登獲勝。

  • And, you know, I was very clear during the 2016 election.

    而且,你知道,在2016年的選舉中,我非常清楚。

  • I knew that Trump was going toe win, and I was able to see that based upon analytics that we were looking at, as well as the response by people just in the street.

    我知道特朗普會贏,我能夠看到,基於我們正在研究的分析,以及人們在街上的反應。

  • How many crimes?

    有多少罪行?

  • How many crimes did you commit for the president?

    你為總統犯了多少罪?

  • Well, that's not something that I intend on discussing.

    好吧,這不是我打算討論的事情。

  • Um, first and foremost, I didn't commit any crimes.

    嗯,首先,我沒有犯任何罪行。

  • Uh, paying somebody for silence in an n.

    呃,付錢給某人以換取沉默的N。

  • D.

    D.

  • A.

    A.

  • Is not a crime.

    不是犯罪。

  • Why?

    為什麼?

  • Why it's perjury is a crime.

    為什麼說作偽證是一種犯罪。

  • And why you in jail?

    那你為什麼會在監獄裡?

  • Well, well, I perjured myself at the direction of it for the benefit of Donald J.

    好吧,好吧,我為了唐納德-J的利益,在方向上作了偽證。

  • Trump.

    特朗普

  • I was staying on message, and I never expected that something that has never been litigated before in the United States would have landed me in prison.

    我當時一直在留言,沒想到在美國從來沒有打過官司的事情,竟然讓我進了監獄。

  • But I'm so certain that I'm going that Donald Trump is going to lose the election.

    但我很確定,我要去唐納德-特朗普會輸掉選舉。

  • I've done something I've never done before and that I've actually placed a bet on, um, Joe Biden winning with the company by the name of guesser.

    我做了一件我從來沒有做過的事 我真的下了一個賭注,賭喬-拜登會贏,賭那個叫 "猜測者 "的公司。

  • And I went ahead and I did that.

    然後我就去做了

  • And I just wanna let you know that all the money that I win from this I'm donating to the A C l U who, along with my attorney, Danya Perry, were instrumental in the second time that I was released where the judge acknowledged that Attorney General Bill Bar had remanded me back to prison based upon retaliation where the proceeds of your book going, Are they going to charity as well?

    我只是想讓你知道,所有的錢,我贏得了這一點,我捐給了A C L U誰,以及我的律師,丹雅佩裡,是在第二次,我被釋放的工具,法官承認,總檢察長比爾-巴爾還押我回監獄的基礎上,報復,你的書的收益,他們要去的慈善嗎?

  • The proceeds of my book or not, they're going for a multitude of things, including paying off the incredible fines and penalties as a result of the I.

    我的書的收益與否,它們將用於多種事情,包括支付不可思議的罰款和處罰,因為I。

  • R s.

    R s.

  • Um, error that was made on my tax.

    嗯,我的稅單上有錯誤。

  • But the point is, people's hearts will not be bleeding for you because you paint a picture of Donald Trump in your book is a sexual predator, a racist, a blackmailer akin to a mob boss.

    但問題是,人們的心不會因為你在書中描繪的唐納德-特朗普是一個性掠奪者,一個種族主義者,一個類似黑社會老大的勒索者而為你流血。

  • You even describe a time when he was turned on by the sight of your 15 year old daughter describing her as a piece of ass, he fist bumped you.

    你甚至還描述了有一次,他看到你15歲的女兒把她說成是一塊屁股,他就很興奮,他用拳頭打了你。

  • After that, you did all of that.

    之後,你做了所有的事情。

  • Your family didn't want you to work for him.

    你的家人不想讓你為他工作。

  • And yet you continued, Yes, and I'm not proud of anything that I did.

    而你卻繼續說,是的,我並不為我所做的任何事情感到驕傲。

  • Nor am I asking anybody for their forgiveness.

    我也不是在請求任何人的原諒。

  • I'm not looking for your forgiveness.

    我不是在尋求你的原諒。

  • What I'm looking for is the forgiveness and making amends with my wife, my daughter to my son and my country.

    我在尋找的是對妻子、女兒對兒子和國家的寬恕和補償。

  • I have to do this my way and whether or not that I I continue to work for him.

    我必須用我的方式來做這件事,不管是不是這樣,我我都要繼續為他工作。

  • I was part of a cult.

    我是一個邪教的一部分。

  • The Trump organization is a cult.

    特朗普組織是一個邪教。

  • Not only was part of it was one second one second.

    不僅是一部分是一秒一秒。

  • One second.

    等一下

  • No, that's where you're wrong.

    不,這就是你錯的地方。

  • You see you like so many others are completely mis informed.

    你看你和其他許多人一樣,完全是消息錯誤。

  • This is not a rags to riches story of me working for Trump.

    這不是我為特朗普工作的破爛故事。

  • I retired when I was 39 years old.

    我39歲的時候就退休了。

  • I was what's called the Sent a Millionaire.

    我是什麼所謂的送彩金的娛樂平臺大全。

  • At the time, I was worth close to $100 million.

    當時,我的身價接近1億美元。

  • I couldn't work for ma'am, ma'am.

    我不能為夫人工作,夫人。

  • I even wrote work, Ma'am.

    我甚至寫了工作,夫人。

  • I could not go toe work for Donald Trump and live off of this salary that he was paying.

    我不能去為唐納德-特朗普工作,靠他支付的這份薪水生活。

  • I was completely intoxicated with Donald Trump's celebrity power.

    我完全陶醉於唐納德-特朗普的名人力量。

  • It's somebody who I have basically read about since the late eighties.

    這人我基本上從八十年代末就開始讀了。

  • And I was I was in the cult, not just in the cult.

    而我是我是在邪教,不只是在邪教。

  • I was a high ranking member of the cult and I couldn't be taken out.

    我是邪教的高階成員,我不能被幹掉。

  • And that was the big problem.

    而這就是最大的問題。

  • Why should we believe a single word?

    我們為什麼要相信一句話?

  • You have to say you're the worst kind of lawyer because you've been disloyal about your own client having gone around doing his dirty work for him on Now you're trying to say you were hypnotized by Donald Trump.

    你不得不說你是最差勁的律師,因為你對自己的客戶不忠誠,到處為他做骯髒的工作,現在你想說你被唐納德-特朗普催眠了。

  • Who do you think is going to believe that?

    你覺得誰會相信呢?

  • Well, actually, I hate to say it, but the American people, for the most part, have kindness.

    嗯,其實,我也不想這麼說,但美國人民,大部分都是善良的。

  • And, um, the redemption story is accurate, and many people do forgive me.

    而且,嗯,救贖的故事是準確的,很多人也確實原諒了我。

  • So whether you choose to or not is completely irrelevant to May.

    所以,你選擇與否,與梅完全無關。

  • As I said, I need to make sure my wife, my Children, and this country, your wife and Children don't understand begged you to walk away from Donald Trump.

    正如我所說,我需要確保我的妻子,我的孩子和這個國家,你的妻子和孩子不明白求你從唐納德特朗普那裡走開。

  • You swore blind loyalty to Trump.

    你發誓對特朗普盲目效忠。

  • Then you slate him in a book on.

    那你就把他寫進書裡,在。

  • Now you're taking the paycheck from part of the Democrat campaign.

    現在你要從民主黨的部分競選活動中拿薪水了。

  • Don't you just represent Michael Cohen the worst of what American political culture has become.

    你不就是代表了邁克爾-科恩 美國政治文化最糟糕的一面嗎?

  • You'll go to whoever gives you the biggest check.

    誰給你最大的支票你就去誰那裡。

  • Well, that's absolutely not accurate, but I don't know how Thio answer that for you.

    好吧,這絕對不準確,但我不知道Thio如何為你解答。

  • I think the question is completely, um it's obnoxious as a question.

    我覺得這個問題完全是,嗯,這是一個令人討厭的問題。

  • No, I find the question is actually not just in the fact that you really haven't read the book and you don't know anything about me.

    不,我發現這個問題其實不僅僅在於你真的沒有看過這本書,你對我一無所知。

  • But no, you haven't.

    但不,你沒有。

  • But what you have Sorry.

    但你有什麼對不起。

  • You don't get to accuse the BBC of fake news here.

    你不能在這裡指責BBC的假新聞。

  • I have read the book.

    我讀過這本書。

  • I know what my question is on.

    我知道我的問題是什麼了。

  • If you're offended by it, that's one thing.

    如果你被它冒犯了,那是一回事。

  • But please answer it because it's accurate.

    但請回答,因為它是準確的。

  • Well, it's not accurate.

    嗯,這是不準確的。

  • And what, You didn't read the things like the patrol.

    還有什麼,你沒看巡邏隊之類的東西。

  • Oh, sentencing memo.

    哦,判決備忘錄。

  • You don't know the story, and what you're doing is you're taking out snippets in order to try to make some sort of a splash announcement, but your inaccurate and again I'm not asking for your forgiveness.

    你不知道事情的來龍去脈,你所做的就是把一些片段拿出來,以圖做一些轟動性的公告,但你的說法不準確,再說一次,我不是在請求你的原諒。

  • I'm not asking for anyone's forgiveness other than my wife and my Children.

    除了我的妻子和孩子,我不要求任何人的原諒。

  • You're asking to buy your book and fund your life interested if you're interested.

    你問買你的書,資助你的生活有興趣的話。

  • If you're interested in reading the book and you're interested in understanding what what I refer to in the book is trumped Arrangements Central, then by the book.

    如果你有興趣讀這本書,你有興趣瞭解我在書中所說的王牌安排中央,那麼由書。

  • And if you're not, you're right.

    如果你不這樣做,你是對的。

  • Don't Why should anybody believe what you have to say?

    不要 為什麼有人要相信你說的話?

  • You talk here, I'll quote your cares what Donald Trump says.

    你在這裡說話,我就引用你關心的唐納德-特朗普說的話。

  • You don't Trump has 10 years of your life.

    你不特朗普有10年的生命。

  • You're sure, right?

    你確定嗎?

  • No, for longer than 10 years I did.

    不,我做了10多年。

  • But I don't any longer.

    但我不再是了。

  • And in order to make amends, I need to tell the truth.

    而為了彌補,我需要說出真相。

  • And that's exactly what's in the book.

    而這正是書中的內容。

  • Disloyal, whether you choose to believe it or not.

    不忠誠,不管你選擇相信與否。

  • Listen, I was never in Prague.

    聽著,我從來沒有在布拉格。

  • This whole thing started with companies like the BBC, with companies like The New York Times, with companies like The Post or The Wall Street Journal or the Washington all claiming that I had gone Thio Prague and pay $10 million to a group of Russian compromise.

    這整個事情開始與BBC這樣的公司,與《紐約時報》這樣的公司,與《郵報》或《華爾街日報》或《華盛頓》這樣的公司都聲稱我去了Thio Prague,並支付了1000萬美元給俄羅斯的妥協集團。

  • I've never been to Prague in my life.

    我這輩子都沒去過布拉格。

  • I've never been to that part of the world.

    我從來沒有去過世界的那個地方。

  • So before you accuse me of having to apologize for lying to Congress over the number of times that I spoke to Trump about a failed real estate project that I was directed, and I did at his request, right.

    所以,在你指責我不得不為向國會撒謊而道歉之前,我向特朗普談了多少次失敗的房地產項目,我是受他指使的,我是應他的要求而做的,對吧。

  • I think you really have to get your facts straight because you're just in complete error.

    我覺得你真的要把事實搞清楚,因為你完全錯了。

  • I'm quoting your book on my research was based on your book.

    我引用你的書,我的研究是基於你的書。

  • Michael Cohen.

    邁克爾-科恩

  • Thank you very much for your time.

    非常感謝您的時間。

he was the man that for 12 years as Donald Trump's attorney, was known by many pseudonyms.

他是男人,12年作為唐納德-特朗普的律師,被許多化名所熟知。

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