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  • You know, my favorite part of being a dad

    你知道,身為父親,我最愛的部分就是

  • is the movies I get to watch.

    那些我因此可以看到的電影

  • I love sharing my favorite movies with my kids

    我喜歡跟孩子分享我最愛的電影

  • and when my daughter was four, we got to watch "The Wizard of Oz" together.

    我的女兒四歲的時候,我們看"綠野仙蹤"

  • Totally dominated her imagination for months.

    這令她的想像力馳騁了好久

  • Her favorite character was Glinda, of course.

    當然,她最喜歡的角色是Glinda

  • Gave a great excuse to wear a sparkly dress and carry a wand.

    這讓她有充分的理由穿閃亮的裙子,拿仙女棒

  • You know, you watch a movie enough times

    你知道的,當你看同一部電影很多次以後

  • and you start to realize how unusual it is.

    你就會開始了解它的獨到之處

  • Now, we live today and are raising our children

    現在,我們生活的時代,讓我們處在一個

  • in a kind of children's fantasy spectacular industrial complex.

    兒童奇幻工業王國裡

  • But "The Wizard of Oz" stood alone, it did not start that trend.

    但是"綠野仙蹤"獨排眾議,它並沒有開啟這樣的潮流

  • Forty years later was when the trend really caught on

    40年後這樣的潮流才真正開始流行

  • with, interestingly, another movie that featured a metal guy and a furry guy

    有趣的是,這個潮流由另一部電影開始,這當中也包括一個錫鐵人和一個毛茸茸的傢伙

  • rescuing a girl by dressing up as the enemy's guards.

    藉由裝扮成敵人的護衛軍,拯救一個女孩(指星際大戰)

  • (Laughter)

    (笑聲)

  • Do you know what I'm talking about? (Laughter)

    知道我在說什麼嗎?(笑聲)

  • Now, there's a big difference between these two movies,

    這兩部電影有個很大的不同點

  • a couple of really big differences between "The Wizard of Oz"

    這也是"綠野仙蹤"跟我們現在看的電影相比

  • and all the movies we watch today.

    非常不同的地方

  • One is there's very little violence in "The Wizard of Oz".

    其中之一就是"綠野仙蹤"裡幾乎沒有暴力存在

  • The monkeys are rather aggressive as are the apple trees.

    裡面的猴子野蠻的程度跟蘋果樹差不多

  • But I think if "The Wizard of Oz" were made today, the wizard would say,

    但是我相信現代製作的"綠野仙蹤"中,巫師會說

  • "Dorothy, you are the savior of Oz that the prophecy foretold.

    "桃樂絲,你是奧茲帝國預言中的救世主。

  • Use your magic slippers to defeat

    用你的魔法鞋來抵抗

  • the computer-generated armies of the Wicked Witch."

    壞女巫的電腦製成大軍吧。"

  • That's not how it happens.

    事情不是這樣發生的

  • Another thing that is really unique about "The Wizard of Oz" to me is that

    另外一項"綠野仙蹤"對我而言獨一無二的地方就是

  • all of the most heroic and wise and even villainous characters are female.

    裡面最英勇、最有智慧、甚至最邪惡的角色都是女性

  • Now, I started to notice this

    現在,我開始注意到這點

  • when I actually showed "Star Wars" to my daughter,

    當我播"星際大戰"給我女兒看的時候

  • which was years later and the situation was different.

    這是好幾年之後,情況明顯不同

  • At that point, I also had a son.

    那個時候,我另外有個兒子

  • He was only 3 at the time.

    他當時只有三歲

  • He was not invited to the screening. He's too young for that.

    我們並沒有要播給他看。他那時候還太小

  • But he was a second child and the level of supervision had plummeted.

    但是他是我們家第二個小孩,監控程度驟降

  • (Laughter)

    (笑聲)

  • So, he wandered in and it imprinted on him like a mommy duck does to its duckling.

    所以,他溜了進來,這部電影就像母鴨帶小鴨一樣,烙印在他的腦海裡

  • Is he picking up on the fact that there are only boys in the universe,

    他是不是接收到這個訊息:全世界只有男生存在

  • except for Aunt Beru and, of course, this princess who is really cool

    除了Aunt Beru和,那位很酷

  • but who kind of waits around through most of the movie

    但是幾乎整部電影都在等待救援的公主之外

  • so that she can award the hero with a medal

    如此一來,她才可以把獎章頒給她的英雄

  • and a wink to thank him for saving the universe,

    並且拋個媚眼,以對他拯救全宇宙表示感謝

  • which he does by the magic that he was born with.

    而這位英雄憑的,完全是他天賦異稟的魔力

  • Compare this to 1939 with "The Wizard of Oz".

    將這部電影跟1939年的"綠野仙蹤"相比

  • How does Dorothy win her movie?

    桃樂絲是如何在她的電影中戰勝的?

  • By making friends with everybody and being a leader.

    憑著跟大家交朋友並且成為一個領袖

  • That's kind of the world I'd rather raise my kids in.

    那是個我比較想要撫養我的孩子成長的世界

  • Why is there so much force, capital F Force,

    為什麼有這麼多的力,大寫F的原力(星際大戰中的超自然神秘力量)

  • in the movies we have for our kids

    存在在我們為孩子製作的電影當中

  • and so little Yellow Brick Road?

    但是卻鮮少有那條黃磚道?(綠野仙蹤裡引領大家找尋巫師奧茲的道路)

  • I know from my own experience that Princess Leia did not provide

    我的經驗告訴我莉亞公主(星際大戰中的公主)

  • the adequate context that I could've used

    無法提供我可以採用的適當例子

  • in navigating the adult world that is co-ed.

    教導孩子,成人世界其實是男女合校的

  • (Laughter)

    (笑聲)

  • You know, there was a kind of first-kiss moment

    你知道,總是有那個"接吻"的時刻

  • when I really expected the credits to start rolling

    但是我其實是在期待工作人員名單出現

  • because that's the end of the movie, right?

    因為那是電影的結尾,對吧?

  • I finished my quest, I got the girl, why are you still standing there? (Laughter)

    我完成了我的任務,我贏得了那個女孩,你還站在那裡做什麼?(笑聲)

  • The movies are very, very focused on defeating the villain

    這些電影非常注重打倒敵人

  • and getting your reward and there's not a lot of room

    贏得獎賞,而沒有太多的空間

  • for other relationships and other journeys.

    發展其他的感情和旅程

  • It's almost as though if you're a boy, you are a dopey animal

    這幾乎就是,如果你是男孩,你就是個全然的野獸

  • and if you are a girl, you should bring your warrior costume.

    而如果你是女孩,你就應該穿上你的勇士裝

  • I mean, there are plenty of exceptions

    我的意思是,還是有許多例外

  • and I will defend the Disney princesses in front of any of you.

    而我會在你們面前,幫迪士尼的公主們辯駁

  • But they do send a message to boys. The boys are not really the target audience.

    但是她們真的會傳遞一些概念給男孩們。這些男孩們並不是目標族群

  • They're doing a phenomenal job of teaching girls

    但是她們把女孩們教育得好極了

  • how to defend against the patriarchy,

    她們教女孩們要如何抵抗父權社會

  • but they're not necessarily showing boys

    但是她們並沒有告訴男孩們

  • how they're supposed to defend against the patriarchy.

    他們要如何擺脫父權架構

  • There are no models for them.

    沒有讓男孩效法的榜樣

  • And we also have some terrific women who are writing new stories for our kids.

    也有些為孩子們寫新故事的傑出女性

  • And as three-dimensional and delightful as Hermione and Katniss are,

    雖然Hermione(妙麗)和Katniss(飢餓遊戲女主角)都很立體

  • these are still war movies.

    這些都還是戰爭電影

  • And, of course, the most successful studio of all time

    當然,有史以來最成功的電影工廠

  • continues to crank out classic after classic,

    繼續不斷地快速製造一個又一個的經典

  • every single one of them about the journey of a boy, or a man,

    每一部都是關於一趟旅程中的一個男孩,或是一個男人

  • or two men who are friends, or a man and his son

    或是一對是朋友的男人,或是一個男人和他的兒子

  • or two men who are raising a little girl.

    或是兩個一起撫養一個小女孩的男人

  • Until, as many of you are thinking, this year,

    直到,就像你們所想的一樣,今年

  • when they finally came out with Brave.

    他們終於推出了"勇敢傳說"

  • I recommend it to all of you. It's on demand now. (Laughter)

    我強力推薦給你們所有人。現在很好取得。(笑聲)

  • You remember what the critics said when Brave came out?

    還記得影評在"勇氣傳說"上映時說了什麼嗎?

  • "Ahh, I can't believe Pixar made a princess movie".

    "阿,真不敢相信皮克斯做了一部公主電影。"

  • Now, almost none of these movies passed the Bechdel test.

    幾乎沒有一部電影通過Bechdel測驗

  • Alison Bechdel is a comic book artist and back in the mid '80s

    Alison Bechdel是80年代中期的一位漫畫家

  • she recorded this conversation she'd had with a friend,

    她錄下了跟朋友的一段談話

  • about assessing the movies that they saw.

    內容關於如何評斷她們看過的電影

  • It's very simple. It's just three questions you should ask,

    方法很簡單。只要問三個問題

  • Is there more than one character in the movie that is female who has lines?

    電影裡是否有超過一位女性角色,擁有超過一句台詞以上?

  • So, try to meet that bar. (Laughter)

    所以,請朝這個標準努力(笑聲)

  • And do these women talk to each other at any point in the movie? (Laughter)

    這幾位女性在電影中有任何彼此交談的時刻嗎?(笑聲)

  • And is their conversation about something other than

    而她們談話的內容是否除了她們彼此都喜歡的男生以外

  • the guy that they both like?

    還有一些其他的東西?

  • (Laughter)

    (笑聲)

  • Right? Thank you.

    是吧?謝謝

  • (Applause)

    (掌聲)

  • Thank you very much.

    非常謝謝你們

  • Two women who exist and talk to each other about stuff.

    電影中有兩個女人談論某件事情

  • It does happen. I've seen it.

    這事發生過。我看過

  • So, let's look at the numbers.

    那麼,讓我們看一下數據

  • 2011, the hundred most popular movies.

    2011年,百大熱門電影

  • How many of them do you think actually have female protagonists?

    你們認為有多少包括女性主角?

  • Eleven.

    11部

  • But there is a number that is greater than this,

    但是有個數據比這個更厲害

  • that's going to bring this room down.

    會讓整個演講廳都震驚

  • Last year, the New York Times published a study that the government had done.

    去年,紐約時報週刊刊登了一份政府所做的研究

  • Here's what it said.

    研究顯示

  • One out of five women in America say

    五分之一的美國女士表示

  • that they have been sexually assaulted sometime in their lives.

    她們曾經遭受過性騷擾

  • Now, I don't think that's the fault of popular entertainment.

    我並不認為這是流行文化的錯

  • I don't think kids' movies have anything to do with that,

    我不認為兒童電影跟這個有任何關係

  • but something is going wrong

    但是明顯地某個環節出錯了

  • and when I hear that statistic,

    而當我聽到這個數據時

  • one of the things I think of is, that's a lot of sexual assailants.

    其中一件我想到的事情是,性騷擾犯的人數好多呀

  • Who are these guys? What are they learning?

    這些人是誰?他們學到什麼?

  • What are they failing to learn?

    他們又沒有學到什麼?

  • Are they absorbing the story that a male hero's job

    他們正在吸收這樣的故事嗎?男性英雄的工作

  • is to defeat the villain with violence and then collect the reward,

    就是用暴力打敗敵人然後接受獎勵

  • which is a woman who has no friends and doesn't speak?

    而這個獎賞就是,一位沒有朋友也不會說話的女生?

  • Are we soaking up that story?

    我們沉浸在這樣的故事中嗎?

  • You know, as a parent with the privilege of raising a daughter,

    你知道,身為一個有幸有女兒的家長

  • like all of you who are doing the same thing,

    正如你們一樣

  • we find this world and this statistic very alarming

    我們覺得這個世界和這樣的數據令人憂心

  • and we want to prepare them.

    我們想要為她們做好準備

  • We have tools at our disposal like girl power and we hope that that will help.

    我們手邊有女孩當自強這樣的工具可以使用,並且希望這有所幫助

  • But I got to wonder, is girl power going to protect them if at the same time,

    但是,我不免好奇,"女力"可以成功保護女孩們嗎?如果同時

  • actively or passively, we are training our sons to maintain their boy power?

    有意無意間,我們繼續教導我們的兒子們維持他們的男性力量?

  • And I'm talking mainly to the dads here.

    我主要是想跟在場的爸爸們說

  • I think we have got to show our sons a new definition of manhood.

    我想我們應該向兒子們展示"真男人"的新定義

  • Now, the definition of manhood is already turning upside down.

    現今,"真男人"的定義已經180度翻轉了

  • I mean, you've read about how the new economy

    我是說,大家都讀過新型經濟

  • is changing the roles of caregiver and wage earner.

    如何改變照顧者和養家者的角色

  • They are throwing it up in the air.

    這些成規被拋到九霄雲外

  • So, our sons are going to have to find some way of adapting

    所以,我們的兒子必須要找到方式適應

  • to this new relationship with each other.

    這樣的新關係

  • And I think we really have to show them and model for them

    而我認為我們必須要做給他們看,當他們的模範

  • how a real man is someone who trusts his sisters and respects them,

    一個真男人應該是信任並且尊敬他的姊妹們

  • and wants to be on their team, and stands up against the real bad guys,

    與她們同一陣線,共同對抗真正的壞人

  • who are the men who want to abuse the women.

    也就是那些對女性施暴的人

  • And I think our job in the Netflix queue is to look out for those movies

    而我認為,我們在Netflix的工作則是注意那些

  • that passed the Bechdel test, if we can find them,

    通過Bechdel測驗的電影,如果真的找的到的話

  • and to seek out the heroines, who are there, who show real courage,

    找到那些女英雄,那些展現真實勇氣

  • who bring people together and nudge our sons to identify with those heroines,

    讓大家團結起來的女孩們,鼓勵我們的兒子認同這些女生

  • and to say, "I want to be on their team",

    並且說,"我想跟他們一國"

  • because they're going to be on their team.

    因為他們將會與這些人一起

  • When I asked my daughter who her favorite character was in "Star Wars",

    當我問我女兒,誰是"星際大戰"中她最愛的角色時

  • you know what she said?

    你知道她說什麼嗎?

  • Obi-Wan.

    歐比王

  • Obi-Wan Kenobi and Glinda.

    歐比王和好女巫Glinda

  • What do these two have in common?

    這兩者有什麼共通點?

  • I think these are the two people in the movie who know more than anybody else

    我想,這兩位是電影中比其他人都更博學的

  • and they love sharing their knowledge

    而且他們不吝分享知識

  • with other people to help them reach their potential.

    幫助其他人發揮潛力

  • They're leaders.

    他們都是領袖

  • I like that kind of quest for my daughter,

    我喜歡我的女兒踏上這樣的旅程

  • and I like that kind of quest for my son.

    也喜歡我的兒子接受這樣的挑戰

  • I want more quests like that.

    我希望有更多這樣的旅行

  • I want fewer quests where my son is told, "Go out and fight it alone"

    少一點那種告訴我兒子"出走吧,獨自戰鬥吧"的使命

  • and more quests where he sees that it's his job to join a team,

    更多冒險讓他了解,加入團隊的重要

  • maybe a team led by women,

    也許那會是個由女孩領導的團隊

  • to help other people become better and be better people,

    幫助其他人成為更好的人

  • like "The Wizard of Oz".

    就像"綠野仙蹤"一樣

  • Thank you.

    謝謝

  • (Applause)

    (掌聲)

You know, my favorite part of being a dad

你知道,身為父親,我最愛的部分就是

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