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  • -One of the reasons I'm familiar with who you are

  • is seeing televised hearings.

  • And, again, we spoke to the kind of questioner you are.

  • You had a moment with the head of the CDC,

  • Dr. Robert Redfield, where you got him to commit

  • to free coronavirus testing on the spot.

  • Obviously, in this current environment,

  • we are losing moments like that, where those in charge

  • are held to any public accountability.

  • How would you approach doing that now

  • or is this just going to be sort of a dark period where,

  • you know, people are making a lot of decisions

  • about things and we don't get to hear

  • how they came to those decisions?

  • -You can absolutely hold someone accountable

  • through a telephone call or, even better, through video.

  • And anybody who does this ought to just think about

  • the amount of guilt that their mother

  • is able to inflict on them via a Zoom call or a FaceTime call.

  • "You haven't called.

  • You're not eating your vegetables.

  • You look tired. Have you gained weight?"

  • I mean, all the things that mothers sort of are able

  • to hold us accountable for via distance,

  • we can absolutely do that remotely.

  • But I do want to say that sending letters,

  • which is what we've been doing a lot of,

  • is no substitute for having the cameras on

  • and having that engagement where you're looking the witness

  • in the eye and you're holding them accountable.

  • I sent Dr. Redfield a letter asking him

  • to provide for free testing, using the law,

  • a week before the hearing, and what I got back was

  • a gigantic nothing burger.

  • Nothing. It wasn't until having him sworn in as a witness

  • and I was able to have a back-and-forth dialogue

  • with him that I was able to get him to give the correct answer,

  • which is, yes, testing should be covered

  • regardless of someone's insurance.

  • -Obviously, you've talked about this vote

  • on a massive relief bill.

  • We're reading a lot of reports that wealthy individuals

  • are benefiting, massive corporations are benefiting.

  • Do you think there has, been up to this point,

  • a failure in oversight?

  • And do you feel as though there is potentially a solution

  • moving forward to make sure it doesn't happen again?

  • -We need to get going on oversight immediately.

  • We should have gotten going on it a month ago.

  • And, so, the day that we passed the CARES Act

  • and we established the

  • Congressional Oversight Commission,

  • within 24 to 48 hours, that commission

  • should have been up and running.

  • Oversight should be breaking news.

  • It shouldn't be the History Channel.

  • Oversight -- it should be done in real time

  • with an eye to, "How can we improve what happens next?"

  • So it's not enough to say, "Oops, oops, we did this wrong.

  • We should have done this."

  • There's actually an opportunity here to engage

  • with the Secretary of the Treasury and, in real time,

  • collaborate -- or should I say bully him

  • into doing the right thing with regard

  • to these taxpayer dollars.

  • -You made it publicly known that you wanted

  • to be on the oversight commission.

  • Nancy Pelosi chose someone else for the role.

  • Do you feel like that limits, then,

  • what you can do in terms of oversight

  • or is that still the responsibility

  • of everyone in Congress?

  • -Look, I've gotten out of bed every morning

  • looking for someone to hold accountable.

  • And nothing about what commission or committee

  • and different assignments people have

  • changes each member's duty to do oversight.

  • We are all responsible to our constituents.

  • We are all responsible to the American people

  • to make sure that the laws we pass

  • are actually making improvements in people's lives.

  • So I'm very supportive of the commission.

  • I can't wait to see what they're going to do.

  • I'm going to continue to collaborate with them,

  • send in ideas, and be engaged, but we also have

  • the select committee that the Speaker

  • has established coming on board.

  • And I'm just eager to get these things up and running,

  • because the opportunities to really improve the programs

  • disappear when you wait to do the oversight until

  • a retrospective, after-the-fact thing.

  • The goal is to engage in real time.

  • -I would imagine one sort of side effect of this

  • is not being in D.C. means not having to schmooze,

  • politically, not having to go to insider politics parties.

  • Do you miss that part of it at all?

  • -Hell no.

  • Cheese cubes are not an adequate dinner.

  • They're not a nutritionally balanced meal

  • that I would serve my kids.

  • I think being away from D.C. and here in my community

  • is the most important place that I could be right now.

  • And, to be honest, being able to spend more time

  • on the substance and less time on the glad-handing,

  • I don't think I've ever been as engaged of a member

  • as I am in this period, and I get to do it wearing

  • flip-flops on the bottom, you know, beneath the jacket.

  • It's business on top. It's party on the bottom.

  • Wearing shorts and flip-flops here in California.

  • But I have more time to be reading,

  • to be listening to my staff,

  • to be calling constituents, to be coming up with ideas,

  • to be responsive to the American people,

  • because I'm not spending any time

  • on sort of ridiculous formalities or traditions

  • or just walking back and forth between buildings,

  • wondering when and if the magic buzzer

  • will go off that summons me to vote.

  • So I'm working harder than ever.

  • I think I'm working in a way that's more effective.

  • -Well, we really appreciate that

  • and we really do thank you for making time for us today.

  • We'll hopefully see you in person next time.

  • Congresswoman Katie Porter, everyone.

-One of the reasons I'm familiar with who you are

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眾議員凱蒂-波特希望國會威逼姆努欽國務卿做正確的事情。 (Rep. Katie Porter Wants Congress to Bully Sec. Mnuchin into Doing the Right Thing)

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