字幕列表 影片播放 列印英文字幕 -One of the reasons I'm familiar with who you are is seeing televised hearings. And, again, we spoke to the kind of questioner you are. You had a moment with the head of the CDC, Dr. Robert Redfield, where you got him to commit to free coronavirus testing on the spot. Obviously, in this current environment, we are losing moments like that, where those in charge are held to any public accountability. How would you approach doing that now or is this just going to be sort of a dark period where, you know, people are making a lot of decisions about things and we don't get to hear how they came to those decisions? -You can absolutely hold someone accountable through a telephone call or, even better, through video. And anybody who does this ought to just think about the amount of guilt that their mother is able to inflict on them via a Zoom call or a FaceTime call. "You haven't called. You're not eating your vegetables. You look tired. Have you gained weight?" I mean, all the things that mothers sort of are able to hold us accountable for via distance, we can absolutely do that remotely. But I do want to say that sending letters, which is what we've been doing a lot of, is no substitute for having the cameras on and having that engagement where you're looking the witness in the eye and you're holding them accountable. I sent Dr. Redfield a letter asking him to provide for free testing, using the law, a week before the hearing, and what I got back was a gigantic nothing burger. Nothing. It wasn't until having him sworn in as a witness and I was able to have a back-and-forth dialogue with him that I was able to get him to give the correct answer, which is, yes, testing should be covered regardless of someone's insurance. -Obviously, you've talked about this vote on a massive relief bill. We're reading a lot of reports that wealthy individuals are benefiting, massive corporations are benefiting. Do you think there has, been up to this point, a failure in oversight? And do you feel as though there is potentially a solution moving forward to make sure it doesn't happen again? -We need to get going on oversight immediately. We should have gotten going on it a month ago. And, so, the day that we passed the CARES Act and we established the Congressional Oversight Commission, within 24 to 48 hours, that commission should have been up and running. Oversight should be breaking news. It shouldn't be the History Channel. Oversight -- it should be done in real time with an eye to, "How can we improve what happens next?" So it's not enough to say, "Oops, oops, we did this wrong. We should have done this." There's actually an opportunity here to engage with the Secretary of the Treasury and, in real time, collaborate -- or should I say bully him into doing the right thing with regard to these taxpayer dollars. -You made it publicly known that you wanted to be on the oversight commission. Nancy Pelosi chose someone else for the role. Do you feel like that limits, then, what you can do in terms of oversight or is that still the responsibility of everyone in Congress? -Look, I've gotten out of bed every morning looking for someone to hold accountable. And nothing about what commission or committee and different assignments people have changes each member's duty to do oversight. We are all responsible to our constituents. We are all responsible to the American people to make sure that the laws we pass are actually making improvements in people's lives. So I'm very supportive of the commission. I can't wait to see what they're going to do. I'm going to continue to collaborate with them, send in ideas, and be engaged, but we also have the select committee that the Speaker has established coming on board. And I'm just eager to get these things up and running, because the opportunities to really improve the programs disappear when you wait to do the oversight until a retrospective, after-the-fact thing. The goal is to engage in real time. -I would imagine one sort of side effect of this is not being in D.C. means not having to schmooze, politically, not having to go to insider politics parties. Do you miss that part of it at all? -Hell no. Cheese cubes are not an adequate dinner. They're not a nutritionally balanced meal that I would serve my kids. I think being away from D.C. and here in my community is the most important place that I could be right now. And, to be honest, being able to spend more time on the substance and less time on the glad-handing, I don't think I've ever been as engaged of a member as I am in this period, and I get to do it wearing flip-flops on the bottom, you know, beneath the jacket. It's business on top. It's party on the bottom. Wearing shorts and flip-flops here in California. But I have more time to be reading, to be listening to my staff, to be calling constituents, to be coming up with ideas, to be responsive to the American people, because I'm not spending any time on sort of ridiculous formalities or traditions or just walking back and forth between buildings, wondering when and if the magic buzzer will go off that summons me to vote. So I'm working harder than ever. I think I'm working in a way that's more effective. -Well, we really appreciate that and we really do thank you for making time for us today. We'll hopefully see you in person next time. Congresswoman Katie Porter, everyone.