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  • Hey, it's Marie Forleo and you are watching MarieTV, the place to be to create a business

  • and life you love.

  • If you want to set yourself on a path to have the most beautiful life possible, regardless

  • of your circumstances, this episode is for you.

  • Krishnaji and Preethaji are the founders of O&O Academy, a philosophy and meditation school

  • for transforming consciousness.

  • They're entrepreneurs and philosophers who have led thousands of people around the world

  • through their retreats and the Ekam World Peace Festival.

  • Their first book, The Four Sacred Secrets for Love and Prosperity: A Guide to Living

  • in a Beautiful State is available now.

  • Thank you both so much for being here.

  • It's such an honor to have you here on the show.

  • Thank you very much for having us.

  • So, you've had your organization...

  • You've been teaching thousands for 30 years now.

  • Talk to me about what inspired you guys to write this book now, which is brilliant, by

  • the way.

  • For us, living in a transformed state of consciousness is not the be all of life––nor is fame,

  • wealth, relationship, the end all of life.

  • And for us, what we see is coming together of both of this.

  • And to put it in a book...

  • Actually you say that, to put a...

  • Yeah.

  • It's about, we want to tell people and teach people and give this gift and put that living

  • in events and put the time in driving events.

  • You know?

  • So, if you're constantly in this belief that our happiness, our joy, everything is found

  • to external success.

  • Yes.

  • We feel if we get more wealthier, we become more happier.

  • If we look more beautiful, we'll become more happy or more healthy and more happier, better

  • relationships in life, more happier.

  • But we are constantly seeing that people are actually becoming more unhappier.

  • Which means, we have to learn to master the inner world and happiness is something that's

  • enjoyed within here.

  • So, it is very important that we first learn to live in a beautiful state.

  • Which means, learning to live in a state of joy, happiness, calm, peace.

  • And from there, nurture a life.

  • From there, build our life.

  • From there, build our relationships.

  • From there, build our wealth.

  • From there, build a success.

  • From there, have a vision for our health.

  • For anything in life external, we need to come from a beautiful state.

  • We need to come from this place of inner calm.

  • We need to come from this place of inner fulfillment.

  • Then everything you do has a meaning, has a purpose.

  • And those actions are very beautiful actions, because now you're not trying to make yourself

  • trying...

  • To make yourself...

  • You're not craving for happiness, but instead you are actually happy and doing things from

  • that state.

  • So, it is very important that we understand that the external world and the inner world

  • has to come together.

  • Which means, you have to have this gift of driving events that then stay in a state of

  • driving the events.

  • That is external success in the world.

  • I think one of the most beautiful stories in the book, which illustrates really the

  • contrast between what you guys have framed as a suffering state, right, versus a beautiful

  • state, is the story of the two monks.

  • Yeah.

  • Do you want to tell that?

  • Sure.

  • Two monks... we just named them Yesmi and Nomi.

  • They're returning back to the monastery and on the way they have to cross a river.

  • And, just as they are about to cross a river, they hear a woman crying.

  • So, Yesmi goes up to her and asks her what is troubling her.

  • She actually has to cross the river, but the water is so full, so she is fearing that she

  • will not be able to get back to her toddler.

  • And, she's fearing that he will cry for her all night.

  • So, Yesmi offers to help her.

  • So, he carries her and leaves her on the other side of the bank.

  • And Yesmi and Nomi continue to walk towards the monastery, and after half an hour into

  • the walk, Nomi in a very agitated tone speaks up, you know, what would he have done?

  • And Yesmi says, he's very calm, "Yes."

  • He says, "No, you carried the woman."

  • Yesmi is like, "So?

  • Our master said never look at a woman, you went and spoke to her.

  • Our master said never speak to a woman, you touched her.

  • And our master said never touch a woman, you carried her.

  • You've done something very wrong.”

  • For which Yesmi very calmly looks at Nomi and says, "Yes, but I've dropped her half

  • an hour ago.

  • It is you who's still carrying her."

  • I love that story, because it illustrates how much in our minds we carry our past, or

  • the worries about the future, or the anxieties, and so much here.

  • And, we're not actually present to our lives, which in this moment, typically, if you're

  • really here for it, is quite beautiful, and quite awesome, if you're not listening to

  • this thing up there.

  • Absolutely, and Yesmi clearly represents that state.

  • Yes.

  • In a beautiful state, he's just going to the woman, sees what is needed, does what is needed,

  • and then continues with life.

  • But Nomi is very agitated within, continues in that state of agitation, and continues

  • in that state of agitation even after the event is over.

  • And he's not being present to life.

  • A beautiful state is a state where you are being present.

  • A state in which there is no inner conflict.

  • It is not an emotional high, but it is a state where you are feeling so connected to life.

  • Connected to people, to life.

  • And what takes away this beautiful state is a suffering state.

  • And how would you define that, a suffering state for anyone...

  • A suffering state is any state in which you're experiencing an inner disturbance.

  • It could start off as irritation, as frustration, as loneliness, as sadness, as...

  • Anxiety.

  • Anxiety, as fear, as insecurity.

  • And, what is it that an individually is nurturing, or fueling at any point of time?

  • Because, there are only two states, Krishnaji always says.

  • Yeah.

  • There are only two states that we experience life from.

  • There's no third state.

  • Whether we are a Christian, Muslim, Hindu, whether we're Chinese, Indian, Japanese, or

  • American.

  • Whether a three-year-old child or a hundred-year-old person, man, woman, anyone in this planet.

  • We are only experiencing life from these two states.

  • Either a suffering state or a beautiful state.

  • You are either relating to your child from a space of love or from a space of confusion

  • and conflict, not knowing how to take it off your child.

  • You're either going to work from a space of connection, connected to the vision that you're

  • doing, or just conflict of not knowing what you're going to do with your life, how is

  • this day going to be.

  • You're constantly in the state of what if, not knowing how the day is going to unfold.

  • So, these are the only two states that you're constantly living from.

  • So, the most important question in life is, what state do I want to live my life from?

  • What state do I want to be a parent from?

  • What state do I want to be a husband or a wife from?

  • What state do I want to go to my work from?

  • What state do I want to be a leader from?

  • That's the most important question and if you can find the answer, which is a beautiful

  • state, then life becomes beautiful.

  • Because behind everything that we're seeing in life, whether it be deciding to be together

  • or to separate, or to take up this job, another job, anything that you're seeing behind war

  • or peace that you're seeing in the world, the division that we're experiencing is one

  • of these two states.

  • And, unfortunately, we are not giving sufficient attention to our state.

  • Because, our life is revolved about what we can show off to others, and how much we can

  • achieve.

  • Nothing is wrong with it, but if it can come from a beautiful state, it'll be nurturing

  • to yourself.

  • And you can also be nurturing to others.

  • Yes.

  • So, one of the things I think is so interesting, for folks listening now, I know they're like,

  • yes, yes, and yes.

  • Now, please tell me how can I begin to cultivate a more beautiful state when my dog is throwing

  • up, and the baby's crying, and I just learned that my transmission's broke, and do you

  • know, like the absolutely really normal everyday things for all of us show up.

  • What would you say to them who are like, "This sounds really good, but how do I even begin

  • to start?"

  • Let us make a clear distinction between challenges that we face in life and suffering.

  • Okay.

  • Challenges are the pressure.

  • Pressure is experienced by any species.

  • The plant species, the animal species, human species.

  • We all experience challenges in our life.

  • Pressure is always there, but suffering is something very different from the challenges.

  • We differentiate a suffering from the challenges that we face.

  • Suffering is the inner dialogue that we carry within ourselves.

  • This continuation of the external challenge internally is very limited only to the human

  • species.

  • An this inner dialogue, this continuation of the challenge internally, that we call

  • suffering.

  • And this suffering, unfortunately, separates us, disconnects us with people.

  • It disconnects us from life.

  • It disconnects us from everything that's beautiful around you.

  • And this is suffering.

  • Do we need to suffer in order to find solution to the challenge that we currently facing?

  • No.

  • No.

  • We're just habituated to it.

  • Yes.

  • We are used to it and more so often, it becomes our home after a point of time.

  • Yes, very comfortable and familiar.

  • Yes.

  • People are used to living in stages of anger.

  • People are used to living in states of anxiety.

  • Even when there is no need, you wake up with this anxiety in your stomach.

  • Or you're not able to get to bed or sleep properly because there's so much of anxiety

  • that you're filled with because you are used to it and you're constantly fueling these

  • states, which has become your home.

  • Yes.

  • So what can we start to do to pull that string?

  • I mean, obviously awareness, I believe, is one of the beginnings.

  • It is extremely important that we bring attention to our inner states.

  • Yes.

  • And what do we teach the participants, our students, is, we teach them wisdom.

  • We give them the right wisdom that is needed to see what is the state in which they are

  • coming from.

  • And also bring attention to the emotions that they're feeling and see how they are obsessed

  • about a past event or a future event and see how disconnected and engrossed they are with

  • themselves.

  • Which I think you add...

  • Yes, if you look at suffering and if you're paying attention to a thought process, you'll

  • understand that while you're suffering, you're constantly obsessed about yourself.

  • Yes.

  • You have moved away from challenges, you have moved away from problems, but you're just

  • obsessing about yourself.

  • For example, you got fired.

  • The problem is, you need to find another job.

  • But instead, you suffer.

  • You suffer because you think now what's going to happen to my mortgage payment.

  • What am I going to go back home and tell my parents or tell my wife?

  • What are my friends going to think about me?

  • Or someone who was less efficient than me got promoted, there was politics, I was sabotaged.

  • So all these thoughts are about you.

  • You have completely moved away from the problem to yourself.

  • And when that happens, you are in suffering.

  • So if you can bring attention to the thought process, then you will free yourself from

  • suffering.

  • And you will start to connect to the problem and there will be intelligence that flows.

  • Today, science clearly says that the more you suffer, the brain actually shrinks in

  • size.

  • And the more you feel connected, the brain actually expands in size.

  • Which means you're becoming either lesson intelligent or less connected or you're becoming

  • more intelligent or more connected.

  • So if I'm hearing you correctly and I'm just gonna track for everyone listening, one of

  • the first things we can do is just simply bring awareness to our thoughts.

  • Bring awareness to that thought process.

  • Yes.

  • And to be able to be aware...

  • Yes.

  • That if we're suffering, there's a really high likelihood that our thoughts are self-obsessed.

  • Absolutely.

  • “I” based.

  • Yes.

  • That is this data today which shows that we think around 12,000 to 60,000 thoughts a day.

  • Out of which 83% of them are negative thoughts.

  • 83% of them are repetitive thoughts.

  • And out of which 80% are negative thoughts.

  • Which means...

  • That negativity bias in our mind, right?

  • Which is, built in ancient circuitry that was designed to help us survive, but in modern

  • times, not so wonderful for a beautiful state.

  • Yes.