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  • I really wasn't planning on making pizza.

  • I really don't know what I wanted to do.

  • I was in The construction business is to do a marble and granite fabrication.

  • I didn't do a lot of cooking.

  • You know, I like my grandmother do all the cooking.

  • She was amazing at it.

  • I did a lot of eating.

  • Not a lot of cooking.

  • Still to this day, when I see the crowd building up outside, I can't believe it.

  • It's still surreal.

  • East people are lining up pizza.

  • How did this happen?

  • And then the anxiety kicks in and I'm waiting for the orders.

  • Like you know, it's the quiet before the storm.

  • And then I just stuck.

  • It hit with takeout orders, and then the place fills up with 30 people at once and the orders start coming and the chaos starts.

  • You excuse me, Let me pulls up.

  • I was like, What's that noise?

  • My name is Mark IAC.

  • Oh, no, this is my pizzeria Bill Callie's in Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn.

  • This was an old candy store that I hung out, and as a kid on my parents hung out here as kids, they may have even met here, and I go for a cup of coffee one day and I run into Rose Marie, who the store belong to, and a X of what was going on with the store.

  • You know, every time I go there, it's close.

  • And she told me they were renting the space out and, like a light bulb went off, and I just really wanted to save it.

  • And, you know, the rest is history.

  • Three days later, I'm signing the lease.

  • It's not that it's important to have a pizzeria in Carroll Gardens.

  • It's just that this is my neighborhood.

  • This is where I just love being here, want to be here, and I want to be anywhere else.

  • They were.

  • So people hear that that I was in kindergarten with that I still see on a daily basis.

  • But for the most part, mostly everybody's gone, and it's like everything else in life.

  • Everything changes.

  • Carroll Gardens was this amazing little neighborhood that not too many people know about, and it had such amazing restaurants here, and there's still a small handful of places left.

  • I mean, you have Fernando's, Esposito's pork store, Mazzola's Bakery, Caputo's Bakery and Caputo's deli.

  • Other than that, I don't think there's much left.

  • Your very first law bread that's on me.

  • More old neighborhood.

  • Give it to the girls.

  • All right, thank you very much.

  • Bread made with law Salami on a lot of black pepper.

  • My brother brought something to our attention, and he was saying, Like growing up in this neighborhood was like playing in a minefield we didn't realize, like all the stuff that was going on and how unsafe it was.

  • But at the same time, it was super safe.

  • So this is Carol Park.

  • This is where, like, the whole neighborhood would come.

  • This was like the Yankee Stadium of Carol Godin's.

  • Some pretty crazy games were played here.

  • They friends settle in now, but really used to hang out on the stoop over here when we were younger.

  • You know that?

  • That was like where we would all congregate and meet, you know, on hot summer nights.

  • That's why I smoked my first cigarette right there.

  • I kissed my first girl on the steps of the library.

  • Hey, Mom, give me a pizza.

  • How are you?

  • Still I know I'm showing you want some good looking guys in there.

  • This used to be Leonardo's pizzeria, but before that it was half a tael suit.

  • It was It was an old like social club, Italian cafe.

  • But then Joe, the owner of the cafe, decided to turn it into a pizzeria with his son was Leonardo's, and Joe was one of the guys that taught me how to make pizza.

  • Now it's a Dunkin Donuts.

  • Every time I would go to places, even my favorite pizza spots, there was certain thing.

  • This is if they just did it like this, it would be so much better if they just added a little more sold, you know, a little bit less oil.

  • It would be so much better.

  • One of the places that I went to was the Pharaohs, and I saw how this old man took Peter to another level and like what I thought I loved.

  • Now I loved even more.

  • There's also a chef in New York, Marry Oh, Mario Carbone from Kabul, and I watched what he did with classic Italian dishes and just took it to another level, you know.

  • And then, you know, I started thinking, What can be better?

  • You've got to make sure that flavors don't overpower each other across the source.

  • The cheese, the flavor of the dough.

  • It's more about ratio than anything.

  • It has to be consistent.

  • And that's one of the hard things about making pizza, making it come out of that oven the same way time after time.

  • At the time, there was so many variables.

  • What a white consider great pizza.

  • It's a combination of a lot of things.

  • We don't use a lot of water in our dough, which has a tendency to make it a little bit more crispy and hold up better.

  • The only problem is with that we have to roll the dough out.

  • Then, from there we have fresh tomatoes that we cook for four hours growing up, eating pizza.

  • These guys are just wrong or tomato sauce out of the can.

  • That was one of the things that I always wanted to change.

  • My grandmother was made a great source and I was like, Why not cook it?

  • Why not give it some flavor, give it some character and then we top it off with three cheeses, which is something that I got from down tomorrow from the fairest way.

  • Use a low moisture matzo dough buffalo mozzarella and then we top it off with Reggiano and then some basil.

  • A lot of these, one of the things that I'm proud of where always mentioned for the Margherita pizza in its purest form.

  • And, like, I actually want to take toppings off the menu sometimes and just make plain pods.

  • My grandmother didn't have like, ah, huge arsenal of recipes, But the few things she did make she made spectacular people like, you know, we only make Peter and call Zone was a kid.

  • That's all I know how to make you know, But I'm just gonna do it really well, whatever.

  • It took me 20 years to build the space out.

  • I signed the lease with $5000 to my name.

  • So, you know, after my 9 to 5, I would come here both nights and weekends and built the place pretty much by myself.

  • You know, I'll never forget the day I opened, I made a couple of parties, gave him out to my neighbors, and they're like, Wow, this is pretty good.

  • I was like, All right, now what do we do?

  • This is I have to open.

  • You know, it's been 2.5 years.

  • People thought I was crazy.

  • They like, What is he doing in there?

  • You know, what is he gonna open?

  • And I took the paper off the windows.

  • I set up my table, you know, and I opened within two hours, every table was taken.

  • I go to this one customer service, everything right with pizza.

  • You enjoying everything the guy's like.

  • Listen, is it okay if I take your number and give you a call tomorrow?

  • Like to do an interview I'm liking?

  • This guy's probably trying to get something for you, Adam.

  • You know, and, you know, I extend my says, You know what column?

  • You know what magazines you have.

  • Things like your magazine was like, All right, no big deal.

  • Like I says, the only thing I knew about restaurants and the restaurant industry was that I used to eat in them.

  • And that's how it all started.

  • And then Jay Z and Beyonce came, you know, I was just, like, a totally not a left.

  • How to get a bounce of for outside.

  • In the beginning, I really didn't know what I was doing and I'd get, like, panic attacks back.

  • You know, people like knocking down the door to get in here.

  • And every time I would get, like, all worked up in nervous, I would just, like, turn and stare Grandma's picture on, like, you know, just call me down, like, you know, I reset.

  • One of the great things about having this place is when people do come back to the neighborhood, they come here and I get to see them again.

  • A lot of the old time is, you know, people that I've looked up to, Mark, we're really proud of what you did here on.

  • It gives me a really good feeling.

  • And you know, I love Carroll Gardens.

  • I'll never leave this neighborhood.

  • I just love making pizza here.

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